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  1. #801
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    Still busy living that Olivia life.

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    TBH, Olivia is amazing, too. I promoted mine to 5* as some sort of reward for her service (and coincidentally, she ended up as a bonus hero the next season). Right now, with all 3 dancers, I use pretty much only Olivia and Azura, as they are both competent attackers as well. ninian is pretty weak, albeit a bit more durable and capable of doing magic damage, but the difference in combat performance is important.

    P.D.: 2 days left to go and still no Bike or BLyn. I still have stupid dreams of something amazing like a last pull +Atk -Spd Bike, but the chances are getting slim.

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    I was the same about Azura v Ninian at first. After using and playing Ninian, I like her way more than I do Azura. The matchup vs reds is generally a wash, with Ninian dealing with the lower res red units as easily as Azura deals with the faster reds. But in the neutral matchup with other blues Ninian is awesome, and even against greens Ninian holds her own better defensively than Azura.

    Tried 1 pull session in folly trying to snipe Ephraim while I wait for Queen Neph. 2 Subaki's. So it wasn't a bad 9 orb waste.

    Sitting on 110k feathers atm. I may go ahead and promote Olivia as well and start to outfit her, as both Azura and Ninian are done with a few different skill builds. May also go ahead and promote Alfonse and Anna just so I have a complete starting trio.

  4. #804
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    I use Ninian, both because she has Escape Route for free and because I gave mine Lightning Breath+ to deter the AI from attacking her and help her deal with pesky Red tomes. She also targets RES which makes her better equipped to deal with tanky reds (hello Xander and Eldigan).

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    Selena is a pretty good unit to have at 4* No SI for F Robin Lunatic.

    If you're able to funnel the axe fighter to the choke point, Selena can tank it while Brave Lyn (No SI, neutral, Someone with Ward Cavalry near her) can snipe and tank from behind the wall while the physical units are bottlenecked behind the axe fighter doing 0 damage to Selena.

    Selena is also used to reposition the dancer since it takes 2 hits for Brave Lyn to kill the first northern axe fighter.

  6. #806
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    Currently leveling up Effie, Ninian, and uhhhhh fuckmylifewhatisthenameofnoironiichanhorsebrother. ... XANDER.

    Brave Lyn: +(hone cavalry)
    Hector: +(bonfire) +vantage 3 +swap
    Reinhardt: +(death blow 3)
    Xander: learning his weapon +reposition
    Ninian: +moonbow +(swordbreaker 3)
    Effie: learning her Death Blow 3

    Haven't inherited them all their shit but no point in inheriting more shit while they are in the middle of already learning stuff. XD

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    ITS HAPPENING!

    NEPHENEE!

    BROKEN AS SHIT!

    Potential no charge Moonbow +10 damage every turn! True Waifu arrives!

    Also, Elincia pretty boss as well. 11 mt brave sword with only a 2 speed penalty and deathblow.

    Pulling blues here is going to be an absolute shitshow, maybe even worse than colorless hell. This also means that the Favaro leak is likely 100% correct; Black Knight is the next TT reward, Arvus is the next new GHB, and a FE4 banner is coming in October (before the inevitable Halloween seasonal).

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    Shit, son...might have to stop trying for multiple Bikes and save the rest of my orbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Zer0- View Post
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  10. #810
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    If Burger King is a TT reward I'm just gonna stockpile orbs for the alleged FE4 banner. I still don't have Hinoka so my Flier Emblem setup is lacking and while Neph will be good, my Blue Infantry slot is currently occupied by Lancina and I've never been a mega Nephenee fanboy.

    I'll be all over Ilyana like white on rice though.

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    Stats were datamined for the new heroes. Neph and Elincia are both very good, and the Black Knight pretty much shits all over Zephiel, and is probably the new best F2P unit ahead of Xander. He Has 34 SPD, Alondite has built-in Distant Counter, and he also gets Steady Stance 3. The only way to kill this monster will be with magic, no physical units will even make a dent in him.

    He also gets Luna on steroids and it's not inheritable. I wish they'd called it Eclipse instead of Black Luna though. They must has Eclipse reserved for something else.

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    Getting good pulls, but not good stats.

    2 Nephenee: -HP + Res and -Atk + Res
    1 Elincia: +HP - Atk

    70 orbs left, so hope to get something decent.

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    Oy, wasted all my orbs trying for Brave heroes. Oh well, at least these units will be in the general pool on future banners. Also Oscar's skills are pretty boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Getting good pulls, but not good stats.

    2 Nephenee: -HP + Res and -Atk + Res
    1 Elincia: +HP - Atk

    70 orbs left, so hope to get something decent.
    I got a +Def -Res Neph, so I think ill stay with that. So many blue units now to try it again.

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    70 orb pity rate broken by 5* Seth. Damn you, Seth.

    Overall: 170 orbs used. Lot of good fodder, have Quick Riposte out the wazoo now but still no Hinoka.

    That -atk on Elincia just burns. I would have wanted any bane other than that. Probably wont pull again, as I kind of want to see what FE4 heroes eventually come on that banner and should start saving for the eventual Halloween banner or a good blue tome.

    I'm hoping sacred coins allow you to alter banes.

  16. #816
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitou View Post
    Also Oscar's skills are pretty boring.
    A lot of Cavaliers have been or will be kinda fucked by not having a prf weapon. Seth got dicked hard with both his stats and his skills, Oscar got kinda hosed, and while Titania fills a niche Urvan really should have been hers. Kieran will probaby end up in the same boat as Oscar if/when he gets added.

    If you're on a horse and you don't have a prf skill/weapon or use magic, you're pretty much doomed from the start (Roderick notwithstanding).

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    I know its way too early for a build discussion, but thinking about Nephenee options.

    Going to use the -HP + Res one I got. May give the 2nd wrath to Sword Lyn or just merge them.

    Fury seems like the best A skill option, but my dislike of Fury on top of the lower HP (34 Max) having 6 taken out of it every combat just is not sitting with me very well. That leaves her at 28 HP if she takes 0 damage from combat.

    If I use something like Firesweep Lance for her, I miss out on the special boosts granted from the Slaying Lance/Wrath/Moonbow consortium. Shes got good enough stats to run Brave Lance builds, but then shes just another blue lance unit doing things instead of 'doin thangs'.

    Could also essentially make her a Lucas with Wrath, but then again not really doing something unique.

    Other options for Nephenee special is to grab Sol or Aether. Thats a flat extra 5HP restored on what becomes a 4 cooldown special with Slaying Lance before Wrath triggers. Basically, instead of using Wrath to put out damage, you intentionally tank hits to get Aether active and then go back to full, starting the cycle over again. The downside there is that you start and stop Wrath throughout the fight and its not really taking full advantage of its intended purpose.

    Elincia seems a lot more cut and dry. Standard quad builds with Flier team abilities where needed.

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    My free summon was a nephenee. -atk +spd tho

    Spent 70 orbs chasing elincia. No dice. Have like 3.75% multiplier

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    I got two Oscars and a Minerva in about 45 orbs so I'm just gonna cut my losses on Nephenee lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    A lot of Cavaliers have been or will be kinda fucked by not having a prf weapon. Seth got dicked hard with both his stats and his skills, Oscar got kinda hosed, and while Titania fills a niche Urvan really should have been hers. Kieran will probaby end up in the same boat as Oscar if/when he gets added.

    If you're on a horse and you don't have a prf skill/weapon or use magic, you're pretty much doomed from the start (Roderick notwithstanding).
    mmm kinda yes. But Blue melee users can still kill him. My Tana with Firesweep lance+ and Life and Death will double him and prolly kill him. It depends on his build but thete is crazy potential with Steady Breath and Wrath 3

    also Nephenee is only Lyn Sol Katzi Wrath 3 fodder. +spd/-res Lyn is gonna swerp house with this beloe 50% HP


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