SCOTUS Thread (News and Discussion): Eight Becomes Nine

**Byrthnoth** · 2018-09-19 05:51

Eh, now we all recognize that Kavanaugh is Biff from Back to the Future 1 and Clarence Thomas doesn't have to feel lonely anymore.

Republicans would have voted to confirm whether or not they Anita Hill'd her. This just spares her the trauma and them the bad sound bites.

**Salodin** · 2018-09-19 08:57

It's also makes for some great 2 liners in a 15second ad.

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**Salodin** · 2018-09-19 10:30

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

The Weeds did another Kavanaugh episode and it is again hilarious. Perhaps not as good as the first time but still funny.

Substance wise it's not as good as the first, but God damn are they roasting this guy comedy central style. I'd tune in during prime time to continue listening to them eviscerate this man lmao.

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**6souls** · 2018-09-19 11:11

Originally Posted by 6souls

IRS & Mnuchin Change Tax Laws to Allow 501(c)(4) Social Welfare Organizations and 501(c)(6) Business Associations to Hide Who Donated to them (Dark Money)

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/0...-thanks-to-irs

Originally Posted by 6souls

Chief Judge Beryl Howell, of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Closes Dark Money Loophole

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/63614...n-election-law
https://s3.amazonaws.com/storage.cit...ds-opinion.pdf

Supreme Court Orders Nonprofits to Declare Donors for Political Ads

The court set aside an order issued by Chief Justice John Roberts on Saturday. The social welfare group Crossroads GPS, a defendant in the lawsuit, had fought to stall disclosure while it prepares to appeal. It failed in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals and then appealed to the Supreme Court.

The disclosure requirement is expected to apply to explicitly political ads by nonprofit groups for the remaining weeks of the campaign season.

The Supreme Court's decision comes less than a week after a new research report by the government reform group Issue One, which puts some dollar amounts on what these unreported donors are giving. The report, which took a year of research, finds that the top 15 politically active nonprofits raised and spent more than $600 million on campaigns between 2010, when Citizens United boosted secret fundraising, and 2016.

The top four spenders identified by Issue One are the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the mainstream conservative Crossroads GPS, the Koch network's Americans for Prosperity and the National Rifle Association. Issue One says that collectively, the four groups pumped at least $357 million into elections between 2010 and 2016.

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/18/64872...ls-some-donors

**kuronosan** · 2018-09-19 11:39

3/4 Republican donors? No way!

**arus2001** · 2018-09-19 12:04

Are we still identifying the NRA as a terrorist organization?

**Salodin** · 2018-09-20 12:16

Republicans released a letter from 45? 65? woman attesting to Brett's character? Dems just received a letter from 1,000 holton arms alumnae supporting Ford.

Idk gents, even when trying to attest to a persons character, the blue wave seems to be a lot stronger than the current red tide.

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**Fiye** · 2018-09-20 12:45

This is so fucking dumb. Just pull the guy, say my b, and nominate some other fucking ghoul. It's not like they have a proposed list of names ready to go.

Fuck. It's like they have to be monstrous assholes about the whole thing.

**Salodin** · 2018-09-20 12:55

Republicans are not pulling this guy, nominating someone else, and getting them confirmed before November midterms. Its Kavanaugh, or hope to God they can hold enough seats after the midterm to still get their 2nd favorite candidate on scotus.

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**Tymon** · 2018-09-20 13:10

Well, so far all of these high profile allegations have ended up having corroborating evidence that validates the accusers.

My guess as to why they're not pulling him is because that hasn't happened yet here.

Don't get me wrong, I think they should pull him for several other reasons. I just don't know if I want to set a standard where all we have to do to sink a guy is (hypothetically) manufacture some allegations and they're completely finished.

There has been significant backlash against companies immediately firing high profile people over allegations in the last year or so. Just because the guy in this case is a shitty judge doesn't mean it's cool now.

That said. What they are doing is refusing the FBI investigation. I have no sympathy for them if they do that. They did it with Anita Hill and it (controversially) cleared Clarence Thomas. Just do it again.

**archibaldcrane** · 2018-09-20 13:13

The FBI actually did investigate the Anita Hill allegations. The bigger problem there was that fuckin Joe Biden didn't allow other witnesses to Clarence Thomas's behavior to testify in front of the Senate as well - just like in this instance the Senate isn't calling anyone other than Kavanaugh or Ford to testify, even though there is a known named witness to the alleged event.

**Tymon** · 2018-09-20 13:16

I should have been a little more contextually clear. I meant that the FBI did investigate Hill and they should do it again with Ford.

Judge (the witness) refused to testify. Could they even force him to?

**Salodin** · 2018-09-20 13:16

Manufacture allegations? You'll have to elaborate. This accuser has like 6? year old notes from her therapist corroborating her claims.

I understand your hesitation, but this isn't some Walmart greeter claiming rape of a scotus nomination; shes a doctor in academia with notes from her doctor and many many more people than Kavanaugh attesting to her character.

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**Dimmauk** · 2018-09-20 13:24

Just look at Kavanagh's high school picture, he looks like the kind of guy that would behave like a piece of shit.

Idk, if I was accused, and I was not guilty, I would welcome the FBI to investigate.

**Zealot** · 2018-09-20 13:24

Yeah, Congress can subpoena witnesses - should they feel so inclined.

**Tymon** · 2018-09-20 13:25

I'm not saying that they were manufactured. I'm saying that if his nomination was immediately pulled with no further comment or investigation that a whole lot of people now have an argument that manufacturing allegations is all you need to do.

That is the reason I want a full investigation.

I don't question her character. However, she is also a left wing activist. You know what right wingers and GOP senators don't think left wing activists have?

If I thought the left was as evil and far-reaching as many of these guys believe I really do understand how they could believe this is a hit job. That's really the only reason I think this should be drawn out. Leave as few talking points as possible left on the table.

**Salodin** · 2018-09-20 13:50

Originally Posted by Tymon

I'm not saying that they were manufactured. I'm saying that if his nomination was immediately pulled with no further comment or investigation that a whole lot of people now have an argument that manufacturing allegations is all you need to do.

Except they dont. Nothing here is sudden or manufactured. There is clear evidence that she, at the very least, believes he attacked her, and she has proof dating back years.

Like, I get your concern, but it doesn't apply in this situation. Unless of course you just ignore all context.

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**Zealot** · 2018-09-20 14:18

Her lawyer has now stated she's willing to testify but doing so Monday will not be possible.

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**Salodin** · 2018-09-20 14:34

I hope she says she has an appointment with her therapist and cant make it monday.

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**archibaldcrane** · 2018-09-20 14:53

Interesting little thread here: https://twitter.com/casey_connects/s...05631579836416

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