SCOTUS Thread (News and Discussion): Eight Becomes Nine

[archibaldcrane]

i mean, but it is fine for them to use if they're gay

[Day]

someone might get microffended

[Yuri-G]

people have been beaten to death while that word was hurled at them. even as an adjective now it still implies all sorts of negative bullshit about gays. it's never, ever used in a positive light.


I know some people think it's just a word, but the history of that word is pretty disgusting and using it now as a euphemism for "feminine/emotional/whiny" says volumes about the unconscious bias toward gay people in this world.


it's not about being offended, it's about being decent to each other.


I mean honestly it's not that big of a deal but just don't use it. it's not hard. there are so many better words that don't have the history associated with them. and calling things "gay" or "f----y" just makes you sound like a prepubescent fucktwerp anyway.

[Deftscythe]

it's not about being offended, it's about being decent to each other.

This is a pretty thin argument considering posts like this

Holy shit literally fuck yourself to death you stupid piece of actual human garbage.

are apparently fine.

[Yuri-G]

This is a pretty thin argument considering posts like this



are apparently fine.

yeah, but Zealot could say that to anyone!


also the use of literally in that manner should be grounds for immediate banning anyway

[Deftscythe]

yeah, but Zealot could say that to anyone!

Not sure what you mean. Talint's post wasn't directed at anyone.

[Zealot]

yeah, but Zealot could say that to anyone!


also the use of literally in that manner should be grounds for immediate banning anyway

I meant what I said. He should find a way.

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[Deftscythe]

I meant what I said. He should find a way.

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Anything's a dildo if you don't mind dying.

[Yuri-G]

what I mean is that Zealot's language was completely neutral and could be applied to anyone, the f-word is not.

[Yuri-G]

I meant what I said. He should find a way.

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I was going to say that no one has ever literally been fucked to death, but I just saw Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri and apparently that's like the entire basis of the plot so yeah. you win this round...

[Deftscythe]

what I mean is that Zealot's language was completely neutral and could be applied to anyone, the f-word is not.

I don't see how that applies here.

[BaneTheBrawler]

if you want to talk about this (again) do so in its own thread or the feedback thread.

[Deftscythe]

if you want to talk about this (again) do so in its own thread or the feedback thread.

Typical establishment lib response.

[dasva]

I mean honestly it's not that big of a deal but just don't use it. it's not hard. there are so many better words that don't have the history associated with them. and calling things "gay" or "f----y" just makes you sound like a prepubescent fucktwerp anyway.

Yo just sit down take a deep breath and remember that you could say that about literally millions of words and phrases but aren't as emotionally invested in it... at the moment. Yes I understand why you take it personally but everyone has something they take personally. Doesn't mean we stop using words all together just maybe not around them

Also I just realized this is the Scotus thread and not the PC thread da fuq happen in here?

[Niiro]

Doesn't mean we stop using words all together just maybe not around them

Like on a public forum.

[Yuri-G]

Yo just sit down take a deep breath and remember that you could say that about literally millions of words and phrases but aren't as emotionally invested in it... at the moment. Yes I understand why you take it personally but everyone has something they take personally. Doesn't mean we stop using words all together just maybe not around them

Also I just realized this is the Scotus thread and not the PC thread da fuq happen in here?

Bane sez stop so I'll just put it this way:


No, there are not millions of words that carry the same weight as f----t and n----r and similar slurs. There really aren't.

[Zealot]

Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, just to use this conversation to get us back on topic.

[Andalusian girls]

You mean except for the last time the Supreme Court ruled on this and explicitly allowed requiring such payments.

let us not pretend that SCOTUS always makes constitutional decisions.

however
i haven't read the entirety of Abood v. Detroit Board of Education but from excerpts it appears that decision too was utilitarian rather than deontological, and indeed in what limited manner it dealt with the latter it sowed the seeds of its own overturning.

The principles that, under the First Amendment, an individual should be free to believe as he will, and that, in a free society, one's beliefs should be shaped by his mind and his conscience, rather than coerced by the State, prohibit appellees from requiring any of the appellants to contribute to the support of an ideological cause he may oppose as a condition of holding a job as a public school teacher.

That appellants are compelled to make, rather than prohibited from making, contributions for political purposes works no less an infringement of their constitutional rights.

The Constitution requires that a union's expenditures for ideological causes not germane to its duties as a collective bargaining representative be financed from charges, dues, or assessments paid by employees who do not object to advancing such causes and who are not coerced into doing so against their will by the threat of loss of governmental employment.

where that court fell short was in failing to recognize all lobbying efforts of public unions are inherently political as government positions are funded through taxation and determined by an elected legislature. the case is clear from a constitutional perspective, and those who oppose the probable incoming decision do so as you do, because they like unions.

[archibaldcrane]

I look forward to not paying my taxes in protest of them funding the forced speech of politicians I disagree with.

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[Andalusian girls]

if only there were a constitutional clause granting Congress the power of taxation