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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    So basically because people don't know how to cook they are angry at Michelle?

    As a former chef I will say though that is probably the biggest thing about cooking. Anyone can cook chicken strips, but it's way harder to make veggies and such good (but still not that hard). But gah when you do it's amazing.
    It's not just that, it's what you can prepare to feed hundreds of mouths, each of them a potential 10 times a week (a lot of schools offer free breakfast as well). That's no easy or cheap feat, and people underestimate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    It's not just that, it's what you can prepare to feed hundreds of mouths, each of them a potential 10 times a week (a lot of schools offer free breakfast as well). That's no easy or cheap feat, and people underestimate it.
    That's kind of along the same line as what I meant. Although that being said I would not expect cafeteria workers to have the skill or motive required to pull that off and make it taste good on the wages they get. I can't blame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    It's not just that, it's what you can prepare to feed hundreds of mouths, each of them a potential 10 times a week (a lot of schools offer free breakfast as well). That's no easy or cheap feat, and people underestimate it.
    You mean because healthy foods are unnecessarily overpriced? I can walk into an actual produce store and buy heaps of dill and other herbs for $5. Walk into a chain grocer and $5 gets you a handful at the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    Trump wants to change the first amendment because it's invading his safe space.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59...f=donald-trump
    Imagine the outrage of Obama tried that. Conservative radio was already telling their listeners that Hillary was going to shut them down and that would be a violation of the 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnus View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/u...smtyp=cur&_r=0

    Trump continues to act upon his vendetta against the Obama administration. This time targeting Michelle's efforts on improving school lunch quality, and the Let Girls Learn program.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    What's the deal with everyone hating on the lunch program? I see a ton of people on facebook posting about how much her program sucks, but it also seems like the people who post this let their kids eat garbage.

    I don't really know much about the topic though. Anyone know more that can enlighten me?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    I've heard that, because of the requirements, schools chose to feed shitty ass tasting food. Parents are upset because their kids are just choosing not to eat it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    So basically because people don't know how to cook they are angry at Michelle?

    As a former chef I will say though that is probably the biggest thing about cooking. Anyone can cook chicken strips, but it's way harder to make veggies and such good (but still not that hard). But gah when you do it's amazing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    It's not just that, it's what you can prepare to feed hundreds of mouths, each of them a potential 10 times a week (a lot of schools offer free breakfast as well). That's no easy or cheap feat, and people underestimate it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    That's kind of along the same line as what I meant. Although that being said I would not expect cafeteria workers to have the skill or motive required to pull that off and make it taste good on the wages they get. I can't blame them.
    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    You mean because healthy foods are unnecessarily overpriced? I can walk into an actual produce store and buy heaps of dill and other herbs for $5. Walk into a chain grocer and $5 gets you a handful at the most.
    Lots to cover, but I actually think her lunch program went really poorly, and I can only hope this is something he can actually improve, and honestly, it doesn't take much.

    Couple of things:

    This is mostly targeted at schools in poverty areas which Obama's plan was trying to help.

    1. Free and reduced lunches are usually given to students who's families are in poverty and can't afford to make healthy lunches (or any at all). So for many students just "make their own" isn't an option.

    2. Most of the schools in poverty areas do not have lunch staff anymore. Hell, most schools in non-poverty areas don't have them. Most schools in poverty areas don't even have nurses. At my school we go through the Snap program, and every morning they bring in a truck with breakfast, and at lunch they bring in a truck for that. They hand out these premade meals during those times and leave.

    3. These foods are absolutely the worst. Most my students just don't eat lunch. I've seen it, and I've tasted a few. They're gross. The lunch secretary has a list she can pick from, and she tries to stick to the menus the kids like, but those are very few and she has to rotate.

    4. The laws about what schools can serve are so convoluted and crazy they don't make any sense. So let's take the potato. The potato has a bad rap because of a study done years ago (harvard or yale or something) talking about how people who ate more potatoes tended to be fatter. What was ridiculous about the misinterpretation of that study is it was ANY kind of food made from potato. Aka, if people ate a lot of fries and potato chips they got fat (no shit, sherlock). So potato is banned from school lunches. Even baked potato, mashed potato, or oven roasted fries or some shit. That is just one example, but you might get the idea.

    5.They are so obsessed with making everything SO healthy to the point the shit is bland, the kids don't eat it, and then they go home and shove their faces with tacos and pizza.



    Honestly, growing up, our cafeteria food was not that bad. I think the bigger issue is portion sizes. Don't act like a kid shouldn't be allowed to eat spaghetti, but make the portion sizes normal, put a little less sauce than maybe they would want. Put less noodles and more salad on the plate. Eating a little unhealthier than they can is still going to be way more healthy than not eating at all.

    It really is a mess and needs to be fixed.

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    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ice-department

    Speaking of safe space conservatism, seems like the woman who laughed during Jeff Sessions' hearing is facing prosecution by the Justice Department for the laugh. If convicted she faces a $500 fine and up to six month in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnus View Post
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ice-department

    Speaking of safe space conservatism, seems like the woman who laughed during Jeff Sessions' hearing is facing prosecution by the Justice Department for the laugh. If convicted she faces a $500 fine and up to six month in jail.
    Remember when that idiot republican interrupted Obama and called him a liar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Lots to cover, but I actually think her lunch program went really poorly, and I can only hope this is something he can actually improve, and honestly, it doesn't take much.

    Couple of things:

    This is mostly targeted at schools in poverty areas which Obama's plan was trying to help.

    1. Free and reduced lunches are usually given to students who's families are in poverty and can't afford to make healthy lunches (or any at all). So for many students just "make their own" isn't an option.

    2. Most of the schools in poverty areas do not have lunch staff anymore. Hell, most schools in non-poverty areas don't have them. Most schools in poverty areas don't even have nurses. At my school we go through the Snap program, and every morning they bring in a truck with breakfast, and at lunch they bring in a truck for that. They hand out these premade meals during those times and leave.

    3. These foods are absolutely the worst. Most my students just don't eat lunch. I've seen it, and I've tasted a few. They're gross. The lunch secretary has a list she can pick from, and she tries to stick to the menus the kids like, but those are very few and she has to rotate.

    4. The laws about what schools can serve are so convoluted and crazy they don't make any sense. So let's take the potato. The potato has a bad rap because of a study done years ago (harvard or yale or something) talking about how people who ate more potatoes tended to be fatter. What was ridiculous about the misinterpretation of that study is it was ANY kind of food made from potato. Aka, if people ate a lot of fries and potato chips they got fat (no shit, sherlock). So potato is banned from school lunches. Even baked potato, mashed potato, or oven roasted fries or some shit. That is just one example, but you might get the idea.

    5.They are so obsessed with making everything SO healthy to the point the shit is bland, the kids don't eat it, and then they go home and shove their faces with tacos and pizza.



    Honestly, growing up, our cafeteria food was not that bad. I think the bigger issue is portion sizes. Don't act like a kid shouldn't be allowed to eat spaghetti, but make the portion sizes normal, put a little less sauce than maybe they would want. Put less noodles and more salad on the plate. Eating a little unhealthier than they can is still going to be way more healthy than not eating at all.

    It really is a mess and needs to be fixed.
    This I can agree with. Portion size is 90% of the problem, because kids aren't taught control. Adults that suffer from this have the same issue. Some people really don't know how much they're eating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    This I can agree with. Portion size is 90% of the problem, because kids aren't taught control. Adults that suffer from this have the same issue. Some people really don't know how much they're eating.
    This is also largely a result of WW2 America where we hammered in this concept that you need to eat everything on the plate, because during WW2 you didn't want to waste anything...

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    I mean, I don't like to waste food... but I'm a firm believer that if we stopped eating everything in sight we would have more of an appreciation for food and would be much more willing to part with it so that other fuckers could eat.

    As it is, I know people who whine about what they're given to eat but don't particularly care what other people get. As long as they feed themselves until they're Hedonism Bot on estrogen they don't really give a shit.

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    The irony is that we still end up wasting an absurd amount of our food supply (the number I heard recently was 40%).

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    Not going to quote that entire thing again, but thanks for the explanation. Helped clear things up.

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    I don't generally post meme-y stuff, but iLol'd:
    https://twitter.com/sirmitchell/stat...35197937647618

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    I laughed more than I should have. 'I have family there' was too much.

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    that is simply glorious.

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    This article explains why Republicans are having so much trouble with Obamacare in a simple way:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e528e81b5379

    In addition to what's in the article, I would add three more factoids:
    1) Reconciliation has to be used let it pass the Senate with only 50 votes (+roboVP tiebreaker).
    2) There are some arguments to be made about whether or not the reconciliation process as it currently exists can even be used on the proposed bill, but the Republicans can rewrite the Senate rules.
    3) The Senate Republicans skew more sane than the House, so if the Republicans capitulate to the so-conservative-that-they're-kinda-not House Freedom Caucus then it seems pretty unlikely that they're going to keep 50 out of their 52 votes in the Senate.

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39790512

    Melania liked a tweet from her personal account that was directed to her First Lady account that suggested her marriage is currently unstable. It's her second tweet that she has ever liked.

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    Awkward....

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    She also hasn't tweeted from her personal account since November 8th.

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    Are we really questioning whether she's happy to be married to Trump.

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