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    Take me zet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    Take me zet
    I have a gf sry. you can try canada though.

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    Brief rundown of different visas, all of which are only supposed to be used when domestic employees are unavailable:
    H-1B : skilled potentially permanent work. These are the weapon we use to try and brain drain the world.
    H-2A : unskilled seasonal agricultural labor. If you want someone to pick tomatoes legally, this would be the vehicle for it. >140k issued in 2015.
    H-2B : unskilled seasonal non-agricultural labor. I'm honestly not sure when a company would use this. ~70k issued in 2015

    As someone who competes with recipients in the job market, I still feel H-1B visas are legitimate. Sometimes you need to fill a job and you can't find a qualified domestic applicant because the skill set required is so specific.

    For unskilled labor, I'm not sure the argument can be made. If you paid more money, you could get unskilled local labor. Really you're applying for an H-2 visa so you can get unskilled labor at your price point, not because people capable of doing the job haven't been born in the US. I guess the cynical arguments in support are:
    1) Keeping these companies open provides jobs for citizen managers/neighboring countries, taxes for the government, and cheaper goods.
    2) ???
    3) Profit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    H-2B : unskilled seasonal non-agricultural labor. I'm honestly not sure when a company would use this. ~70k issued in 2015
    The one example I can think of is ski resorts hiring staff in the winter. Wait staff, cashiers, bar tenders, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    The one example I can think of is ski resorts hiring staff in the winter. Wait staff, cashiers, bar tenders, etc.
    Yep. That's actually a very large number. In Vermont alone I'd guess it's 4-5,000 seasonal workers.

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    Sorry, I can obviously imagine the need for seasonal labor outside of agriculture.

    I just don't see why it has to be foreign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Sorry, I can obviously imagine the need for seasonal labor outside of agriculture.

    I just don't see why it has to be foreign.
    It's cheaper for the resorts in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    The one example I can think of is ski resorts hiring staff in the winter. Wait staff, cashiers, bar tenders, etc.
    isn't this also what trump applied for for maralago last year. kitchen staff iirc

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    It wouldn't surprise me.

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    Mexican? Come to Canada. Fraser Valley (BC) is full of them doing seasonal jobs.


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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40662772

    Trump tells the Senate to cancel their Summer vacation and get a ACA repeal. Tells senators who are up for re-election that if they want to keep their jobs, they must pass this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40662772

    Trump tells the Senate to cancel their Summer vacation and get a ACA repeal. Tells senators who are up for re-election that if they want to keep their jobs, they must pass this.
    After watching him talk today, I firmly believe that he has not read the Senate healthcare plan. He has no idea what he is talking about.

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    He has never read a piece of legislation in his entire life and he never will.

    Spicy and Priebus put on puppet shows so he can get the gist of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    After watching him talk today, I firmly believe that he has not read the Senate healthcare plan. He has no idea what he is talking about.
    The WH issue brief papers are now capped at 2 pages, including charts and maps. You think he's read any actual proposed legislative language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    He has never read a piece of legislation in his entire life and he never will.
    who has

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    who has
    this is one googleplex percent true

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    Reading actual legislation is hard. Why bother? Health care is easy...Trump said so himself often enough before his election. We're gonna get much better health care at a lower cost, trust him.

    The fact that this isn't at based in reality is everyone else's fault. You don't need to read a damn thing to know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    who has
    I have and psure Zealot has had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    I have and psure Zealot has had to.
    Has to proofread for casual racism.

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