The Witcher Saga - Season 2 December 17, 2021

[Krandor]

Didn't he hate the games too lol

He views video games in general as a low brow form of entertainment, so he's always been butthurt that his work is known more for the games than his own novels.

[Andalusian girls]

it's p funny

like hey remember how Americans made the densely political Game of Thrones and it became the biggest juggernaut in prestige television history in America
yeah
ok let's do the opposite of that

[Andalusian girls]

Sapkowski hated it, but he hates basically every adaption of the Witcher so that's whatever

He views video games in general as a low brow form of entertainment, so he's always been butthurt that his work is known more for the games than his own novels.

Didn't he hate the games too lol

this is not so accurate

of the Netflix show he said "i've seen better, i've seen worse." which fair enough about where i am. he did not like the Hexer but the Hexer is quite bad. he's always praised the games for being high quality products (tho he's never played them nor played a videogame in his life) but he does consider them a less artistic medium than literature + got into that very public spat with CDPR over royalties, but everything is buddy buddy between them now after hammering out a new licensing agreement.

should prolly be in the context he's a grumpy nihilistic Pole who grew up in the Soviet domination of his country. in this case think the American context is in play, he doesn't speak nicely of others the way Sanderson or Martin or Jemisin or whomever regularly do at all the cons. like a lot of Eastern Euros he's far more blunt, even negative, than is culturally acceptable in the West. George RR Martin prolly has the exact same view of videogames re literature and will never play Elden Ring but won't say it out loud ya know

it would be lit if he embraced videogame storytelling but the man was born in the 1940s in postwar Poland asking kinda a lot there u know

[Salodin]

its all dumb american kids fault apparently...
https://kotaku.com/the-witcher-seaso...lix-1850701330

This quote is a fucking bummer...

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[Krandor]

All the people running the show are clearly absolute idiots. If you look up the writers for the show basically their only writing credits are for the Witcher. They were all hired because they're friends with the show runner and not because of any actual qualifications or experience.

[Rhyis.]

season 3 actually wasn't bad. it was vastly better than the second season

angry nerds being angry nerds

[Krandor]

It was an improvement yes, but that's not any kind of achievement considering how awful season 2 was.

Not having an entire plotline dedicated around Yen trying to sell Ciri for her meth fix certainly helps.

[Takiwaki]

I really really hate people just showing up out of the blue just in the right place at the right time... It was like so overused.

[Meresgi]

season 3 actually wasn't bad. it was vastly better than the second season

angry nerds being angry nerds

Season 2 green screen if I remember correctly at least actually worked lol. But yeah season 2 was a snorefest for the most part too. At this this season had the fight with Geralt and all the squirrels but then dropped off after that.

All the people running the show are clearly absolute idiots. If you look up the writers for the show basically their only writing credits are for the Witcher. They were all hired because they're friends with the show runner and not because of any actual qualifications or experience.

Not surprised, they're trying to use this show to prove their writing chops or go over what they learned at community college classes they just took on writing and translate it to the material.

[Meresgi]

Just finished it, 1st and last episodes were good I think but the rest were fucking really bad. Won't be going on to a new season with this if Cavil isn't a part of it.

[Yabby]

I've never read the books, so i'm not sure if that is how they were written or if it is because the showrunner/writers need to simplify the story for us dumb-dumbs, but it just felt like everything was rushed and the chars just didn't make sense after a while. Everyone was backstabbing each other one ep, and friends the next. Someone that had all of 3 mins on screen together all of a sudden embrace each other like they have been lovers all their lives. Everything just seemed forced to me.

Or I'm just one of the dumb dumbs that couldn't follow it, even if it was dumbed down.

[Uzor]

Assuming you mean the mages, I do agree in part. But do remember that canonically, they are much older than they appear. Tissaia for example is over 300 years old. There's a lot more history between the characters than what's displayed in the show (or in the books) so it's not unreasonable to think that people that has known each other for decades would embrace each other. They're more like a family than anything else. Tissaia is more like a mother figure to the mages, and she blindly trusts all of her "children" like a mother would, making it easy to deceive her.

As an example, even though Stregobor was betrayed by the other mages, he's ultimately been with them for longer than a normal human lifespan and do probably have a sense of loyalty to the Brotherhood as a whole, even if he feels betrayed by individual mages.

It's kind of like Thanksgiving with the family. Everyone in the family is away doing their own thing. You might not agree with everyone in the family and fight/bicker with them when you meet them for family events, but they're ultimately family, and you would mourn the loss of most people (although I'm sure there are exceptions) in your family even if you fundamentally disagree with them. And you wouldn't want to see the entire family slaughtered and the house burned down just because you got betrayed by some people in the family.

[Meresgi]

The books were much better paced from what I remember. While sometimes as a writer you need to adapt source material that fits your media, and books can take a lot longer on stuff...the writers of this show didn't embrace the source material beyond just grabbing ideas from it and then trying to write their own shit and failing horribly at it. I believe the Tower of the Gull wasn't something Ciri finds till the very end of the book series, she meets the rats much earlier from what I remember. Cahir is the same age as Ciri and has a much better arc where he joins with Geralt and others to find her, etc etc.

[Qalbert]

https://twitter.com/witchernetflix/s...82116861255969

[Andalusian girls]

Sapkowski deserved better

[Tyrath]

Still havent watched s3, feel like ima just be sad we're losing Cavill the whole time

[Meresgi]

https://twitter.com/witchernetflix/s...82116861255969

God no

[Qalbert]

https://x.com/witchernetflix/status/1836117929743581583

[Gredival]

Severe necrobump I know, but I finally knocked off Season 3 from my watchlist. Can someone educate me on the creative liberties the writers are taking vs. the books? I figure the Radovic queer romance is one. I imagine pacing is always going to be a problem with books vs. show, but how much of the intrigue/political backstabbing is non-canon to the books?

[Krandor]

There's uh... a lot. The book and show are almost completely disconnected at this point, they're just using some plot points from the books as general suggestions.

https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/com..._some_context/