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    Hit looks bad ass.

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    tl;dw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    tl;dw?
    + Game is beautiful. Presentation is top notch. Plenty of modes to keep you occupied on the single player aspect.

    - Too many characters play very similarly. Fights currently last way too long. Fear of Shenron make-a-wish mechanic being busted.

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    Apparently shenron also costs 7 bars + a combo landing (in addition to the balls) before you can activate it in the final build, so I can't imagine we'll be seeing too many wishes.

    As for matches lasting too long, it seems that way for every game when you're watching people that don't know what they're doing. Can't really judge that until players are doing real mixups and setups, knowing what/how to punish, etc. Remember the pace of mvc3 matches at launch compared to what came later?

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    More like, tldw: it’s a Max video. Whether he believes what he says or not, it’s just tossed out prematurely to make $.

    Never tuned into his shit again, after he was talking up how awesome SFV beta was, when it was obviously worse than dog feces.

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    I believe him on this one. The moveset is pretty dry and we've probably seen some of the highest combo potential from the top-level play back during the initial beta with guys like Tatsunautical extending combo strings with Vegeta assists and sneaking resets in with 16 and 18.

    Regardless of the depth of the game, its going to be very popular and a feast for the eyes. Even if the fighting itself was Garbo, the game is art in motion, and it needs to exist. If nothing else, a game like this shows off the potential for future games and sends a message to other companies not to slack off in their approach.

    Its a very important game for the genre, one way or another.

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    I hate Max's stuff too but his breakdowns of the new characters do show some variations of the basic formula. Hit and Beerus look extremely interesting and more in-line with the crazy characters from GG or BB. I have no doubt Arcsys can do it, whether they will for all new characters is a mystery.

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    You don't need Max's stuff to arrive at the same conclusion:

    Tatsu and Nakkei are two of the nastiest players of the game through beta, and they squeezed just about everything out of the game at that point. Its going to look extremely pretty, but I don't see a ton of depth aside from using teammates to open up the defense through block strings and for extending combos (not so much damage, due to scaling).

    Check out the rest of those two's matches on Yogaflame24's channel. They wringed about every drop from the beta, and there haven't been any more specific moves added to any character since then, just new characters.

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    Holy shit the BGM

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    I get the idea, to make it fun for non-FGC people they make it similar across the board with simple inputs. You pick your favourite character and after learning them you've learned like 60% of the roster.

    It sucks that the most interesting characters are behind paywalls, but it would be good to see more variation with characters and assists.

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    Huh? They havn't announced any DLC characters yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    More like, tldw: it’s a Max video. Whether he believes what he says or not, it’s just tossed out prematurely to make $.

    Never tuned into his shit again, after he was talking up how awesome SFV beta was, when it was obviously worse than dog feces.
    And you act like he hasn't hated the game since..even before Season 1 ended. I think his hype up for the SFV beta was just him having hopes that it was just a beta. Not to to say he doesn't put shit out there for money, but his breakdowns and such are usually pretty on point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Huh? They havn't announced any DLC characters yet.
    I feel like they have, but it could be I'm thinking of something else.

    If we get all those characters in the base game? I'm totally fine with that. Maybe I'm too cynical.

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    There's a FighterZ pass that's supposed to unlock 8 additional characters

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    that's also not included in that $140 CE they announced months ago lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanecyclone View Post
    that's also not included in that $140 CE they announced months ago lol
    When i found that out, i cancelled my CE preorder, and just got the standard version, then just gonna get the season pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Apparently shenron also costs 7 bars + a combo landing (in addition to the balls) before you can activate it in the final build, so I can't imagine we'll be seeing too many wishes.
    Game Informer provided some more info on wish mechanics based on info from an official Bamco tweet:

    Quote Originally Posted by Game Informer
    According to a recent tweet from the company, after seven combos with a specific hit count (10 hits for the one-star ball, 30 hits for the three-star ball, etc.) are performed during the match, Shenron will appear to grant one player one of four wishes. The next player to land a combo (the tweet does not mention specifics, though an image in the tweet suggests it's no more than seven hits, may need to end with a heavy attack, and may require a full seven bars of Ki meter to activate) will get the wish.

    That player can then choose to have their current character's health bar fully restored, revive one of their allies with half health, gain an additional Sparking Burst charge, or become immortal, restoring half their health and gaining auto-restoration for their energy gauge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    I feel like they have, but it could be I'm thinking of something else.

    If we get all those characters in the base game? I'm totally fine with that. Maybe I'm too cynical.
    They announced there will be 8 DLC characters for the first 'season' or whatever, but everyone shown so far is the base roster, the last of which should be android 21.

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    SSJB Goku/Vegeta are part of the base roster?

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