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  1. #2821
    Nidhogg
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    Getting back into PC in prep for Iceborne release. Is this Defender shit the best thing for the moment?

  2. #2822
    Sandworm Swallows
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    The weapons are almost all the best pre-iceborne weapons, but I think some other elemental stuff is better for sword and shield, dual blades, and bows? The Defender armor looked like a good starting point, but I think there is a lot of higher stuff that is better.

  3. #2823
    Old Merits
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    From what I've seen if it's a raw weapon it's hands down the best. Dual blades though for example defender has less attack than Zirael.

  4. #2824
    I would prefer not to.
    Moms Spaghetti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantih View Post
    Like FFXI crafting, there is a total cap spread of points you can have, and once you hit it, leveling something causes other levels to drop. Functionally, you can have half the zones at max.
    can i get all of them to 4 to start at least or nah

  5. #2825
    I'm almost as bad as Mazmaz
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    i forget if it's at level 3 or 4 before you start effecting other areas levels but yeah you can freely level them all up a bit

  6. #2826
    D. Ring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron View Post
    can i get all of them to 4 to start at least or nah
    You don't really want to do that anyways. The higher level an area, the more monsters that can show up. L6 opens up an area's tempered monsters, elders, and zone specific monster. Level 7 brings in the tempered elders, and tempered zone specific monsters, but as mentioned, is a ways off. Whatever you decide to leave un-leveled is usually better hunted via joining a session that has what you need, but I'm currently rotating so I pick up at least one of everything, just for completion's sake. If you just want to focus on elders, then it's a spread of Recess, Higlands, and either Forrest/Rotten Veil.

    Also, the only way to get investigations, for the zone specific monster, is to encounter them in GL or an event/MR Optional quest first.

  7. #2827
    I would prefer not to.
    Moms Spaghetti
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    i just got obliterated by a monkey so i don’t think i have to worry about any of that for a while anyway

  8. #2828
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    Monkey is new Deviljho; show's up everywhere and fights everything; usually a good way to deal with him since he's bat shit crazy, let alone the tempered one, which I just will not touch.

  9. #2829
    I'm almost as bad as Mazmaz
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    keeping attacking his butt

  10. #2830
    Black Guy from Predator.
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    The Immortal Bill Duke

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    IT'S LIVE PC BOIS, GO DL YOUR SHIT AND LETS FUCKIN DO THIS

  11. #2831
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    60MB/s isn't fast enough. Fucking 80GB expansion lol.

  12. #2832
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    Ugh, why did the game change my key binds, lol

  13. #2833
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    60MB/s isn't fast enough. Fucking 80GB expansion lol.
    Worth it. Although I'm definitely not playing on pc tonight with my ass midwest internet.

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    Yeah, mine is pretty solid, got it done in about 25 minutes.

  15. #2835
    Black Guy from Predator.
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    viper bodied me. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abandon View Post
    viper bodied me. lmao
    Yeah he's a real piece of shit the first time but once you get him, you really don't have to fight him again.

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    Fucking game crashed at the end of the Barioth fight. Ugh.

    Lance's new counter clutch move is fucking sweet though, especially against shit that likes to charge you.

  18. #2838
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    How does the Lance clutch work? I still have like an hour left to go.

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    Didn't plan on getting ICeborne right away but ended up snagging Digital Deluxe for $40. Guess I'm in

  20. #2840
    Black Guy from Predator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AoE View Post
    Yeah he's a real piece of shit the first time but once you get him, you really don't have to fight him again.
    got his ass back, farmed him to make his long sword. we out here fam

    still unsure as to what to upgrade the armor to, however. Is it worth losing different perks just for the defense?

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