Terrorism Thread: It's Not Just Muslims. That's What They Want You to Think.

[Cail]

Guy had 19 rifles in his room, 2 on tripods. Hundreds of ammunition rounds

[NynJa]

I see day didn't take his ban well

This post didnt get the attention it deserves.

[Andalusian girls]

I guess we'll know in the next few hours (or days) but I'm hearing that it is very likely that the guns he used were already illegal

Don't think anything short of government seizing 300million+ guns would have the effect any of us want

except, you know, a reduction in gun violence

[archibaldcrane]

You're jumping farther to conclude that gun regulation is all we'd need like the data in south africa showed in the year 2000

My "conclusion" if you want to call it that, is that more gun regulation would reduce gun violence, murder rates, and suicides.

Not eliminate. Not bring us in line with other 1st world countries. Just reduce. But it wouldn't take massive confiscation to accomplish a reduction, nor would it take repealing the 2nd amendment. There's plenty of sand we can throw into the gears of the system that most states with lower gun deaths do and that none of the states with the highest gun deaths do that would pull the latter towards the former.

[NynJa]

Weird, NJ has the 6th lowest gun death rate

I'm sure there's no causation though.

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https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-...nd-state#MRord
And yet Jersey is 23rd in murder's per 100,000 people...its almost as if there are other methods of killing people other than guns, who'da thought?

[Andalusian girls]

just caught up and i think the real crime here is how many of you are incapable of analyzing statistics in a productive manner good heavens

[archibaldcrane]

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-...nd-state#MRord
And yet Jersey is 23rd in murder's per 100,000 people...its almost as if there are other methods of killing people other than guns, who'da thought?

and?

[Mrbeansman]

A lawyer for CBS went on Facebook (uh oh) and said she had no sympathy for the victims because most country music fans are gun toting republicans. She got fired.

Come on you revel in terrible people getting killed in the comfort of your own home not social media.

[archibaldcrane]

just caught up and i think the real crime here is how many of you are incapable of analyzing statistics in a productive manner good heavens

weird jfc edit

anyway, yeah you can stat-fuck your way into defending any position you'd like here, just depending on how disingenuous you want to be

[archibaldcrane]

Between the hotel room and the shooter's home, 34 guns have been found as well as some explosives.

[Heavencloud]

Between the hotel room and the shooter's home, 34 guns have been found as well as some explosives.

So what you're saying is he would've used explosives if gun laws were more strict. Nice.

[NynJa]

So what you're saying is he would've used explosives if gun laws were more strict. Nice.

I know whats coming up:

and?

[Thunder]

My "conclusion" if you want to call it that, is that more gun regulation would reduce gun violence, murder rates, and suicides.

Not eliminate. Not bring us in line with other 1st world countries. Just reduce. But it wouldn't take massive confiscation to accomplish a reduction, nor would it take repealing the 2nd amendment. There's plenty of sand we can throw into the gears of the system that most states with lower gun deaths do and that none of the states with the highest gun deaths do that would pull the latter towards the former.

if all you want is any kind of 'reduce' then ok. Across 350 million people I have no doubt at least one death would be prevented with additional regulation

just caught up and i think the real crime here is how many of you are incapable of analyzing statistics in a productive manner good heavens

could you be specific? It's kind of lazy to just blanket it on us like that. And I'm assuming I'm in your targets and there's just no way for this to be productive for me (or anyone else you could be meaning) if you don't point out what you're referring to

[Aerin]

So what you're saying is he would've used explosives if gun laws were more strict. Nice.

Yup, if he didn't have those automatic rifles, he just would've used rocket launchers. Or maybe a really huge slingshot to fire the explosives into the crowd

[Niiro]

The best way to reduce gun crime is to legalize it.

[Fondue]

Yup, if he didn't have those automatic rifles, he just would've used rocket launchers. Or maybe a really huge slingshot to fire the explosives into the crowd

I mean the guy apparently had his own plane, he could have 9/11d them too

[Aerin]

I mean the guy apparently had his own plane, he could have 9/11d them too

Clearly taking away methods of killing won't work. Maybe, if we increased them we could overflow people with choices and they'd never be able to decide

[Dimmauk]

Just hand out guns at the entrance of every outdoor venue. I bet the shooter would have thought twice if thousands of people started wildly shooting back at him. He wouldn't have been able to kill himself if he was already dead.

[Ezek]

Was it ever determined what weapon(s) he was using? I watched some videos and the rate of fire/gunfire sounded a lot "heavier" and faster than an AR-15 or M4. That and with how long he was sustaining fire, a carbine would have overheated as he wasn't exactly firing in bursts. Co-workers think it sounded like an M249, makes you wonder how some random dude got his hands on a SAW if that's really the case.

[Thunder]

Was it ever determined what weapon(s) he was using? I watched some videos and the rate of fire/gunfire sounded a lot "heavier" and faster than an AR-15 or M4. That and with how long he was sustaining fire, a carbine would have overheated as he wasn't exactly firing in bursts.

Not yet, I think if it were revealed by the cops everyone would be talking about it

There's a periscope of a press conference vegas's sheriff had. Maybe he says some of the guns used there and people aren't being loud about it on social media, it's 35min long. https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnGempEqevGX

Maybe someone cares to know, but he did confront security of the hotel by shooting at them through his door