Terrorism Thread: It's Not Just Muslims. That's What They Want You to Think.

[Salodin]

Bases is incredibly misleading.

Why is leaving them alone the only alternative? Leaving a trail of bodies in our wake as we try to get individual targets is exactly the problem, do you dispute that?

Do you think these people just hate America for no reason?

Again, you keep making this argument about something it isnt. We found a base/camp/home where terrorists train other terrorists. In the Army of Spicy, what do we do? Leave them alone? Send troops to die and fight them to try and reduce collateral damage at the cost of American lives? You keep ignoring this reality because you have this naive expectation of America.

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[NynJa]

You keep saying "terrorist training grounds" as if that means something. You are creating a scenario in your mind with an obvious answer. In reality it isn't that black and white. We are bombing villages, cities, towns, markets, etc.

That you are arguing for committing war crimes by targeting unarmed civilians that aren't participating in the conflict. No, simply living in a "training ground" isn't a justifiable use of force. Otherwise that would literally translate to killing anyone because they are in a war zone even though they aren't participating. And, what is this, the fucking Real IRA? People are just off in the woods in camps and bunkers training? It is that simple?

'Well, if the hospital didn't want to be bombed then they shouldn't have been giving treatment to terrorists'

OP's video wasnt "a village, city, town or market" though...

[mallister]

yeah it's not like this was some wedding bombed by mistake and a shitty vetting process. this was a fucking training camp.

[Salodin]

No you guys don't understand, bombing their terrorist training camps is totes the same as bombing hospitals.

[Spicyryan]

Again, you keep making this argument about something it isnt. We found a base/camp/home where terrorists train other terrorists. In the Army of Spicy, what do we do? Leave them alone? Send troops to die and fight them to try and reduce collateral damage at the cost of American lives? You keep ignoring this reality because you have this naive expectation of America.

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There are threats to America globally that it doesn't attack. Threats that are more serious than a camp for sure.

The domino theory has become terrorism instead of communism and it is just as ignorant now as it was in Vietnam.

As much as it loves bombs. America dropped the whole arsenal on ISIS already to the point a bomb shortage made headlines. Somehow it didn't come close to solving the problem or threat of terrorism. Neither has two wars. Targeted strikes has historically never worked, and it never will.

[Salodin]

Oh, so we didn't end this/any war with this one strike so why bother. That's your argument, okay.

[Salodin]

We should just go Hiroshima on these brownies, the japs learned their lesson real quick and so will these a-rabs.

[NynJa]

So what you're saying is that they should stop trying because it can never be beaten, and we should succumb to our new terrorist overlords?

[archibaldcrane]

The "forever war is good" "no, forever war is bad" arguments are always fun.

[Spicyryan]

So what you're saying is that they should stop trying because it can never be beaten, and we should succumb to our new terrorist overlords?

I fail to see how a bunch of assholes in a dusty shithole are suddenly the overlords of anything that isn't local.

Boko Haram rules America by that logic.

[Khajit]

So what you're saying is that they should stop trying because it can never be beaten, and we should succumb to our new terrorist overlords?

The idea of not having torture gulags and prisons where literal children get raped in front of their mothers doesn’t even occur tknow you at all, does it? Part of the reason these guys last so long is because everyone keeps on giving people reasons to hate the west enough to try and blow them up and destabilizing regions. The current US strategy is based upon fighting fire with firewood then getting surprised when the fire spread.

[Spicyryan]

The idea of not having torture gulags and prisons where literal children get raped in front of their mothers doesn’t even occur tknow you at all, does it? Part of the reason these guys last so long is because everyone keeps on giving people reasons to hate the west enough to try and blow them up and destabilizing regions. The current US strategy is based upon fighting fire with firewood then getting surprised when the fire spread.

It is the bullshit logic that people buy. Where the only alternative to fighting fire with firewood is doing nothing and watching the terrorists rape every American with a rusty spoon.

[NynJa]

https://www.rt.com/news/339672-iraqi...sa-enemy-poll/

After conducting 250 face-to-face interviews in three Iraqi cities, the Arab Youth Survey has discovered that 93 percent of respondents aged between 18 to 24 years old see the US as an enemy. Only 6 percent of young Iraqis considered it to be an ally, while one percent could not decide.

Hardly surprising that US is seen as the prime source of evil in the country, considering that the young generation has been raised in war and chaos that followed the American invasion of the country in 2003. And while the bulk of US forces left the country in December 2011, they were quick to return in June 2014, to help it defend against the Islamic State.

[archibaldcrane]

wait which point do you think you are proving with that quote

[NynJa]

The fact that they just dont like the west in general?????

They removed a terrorist dictator from power. Theyre there fighting ISIS in their defense (and that of others). And they're still the bad guy.

[Spicyryan]

The fact that they just dont like the west in general?????

They removed a terrorist dictator from power. Theyre there fighting ISIS in their defense (and that of others). And they're still the bad guy.

How backwards can you get? America installed the fucking dictator in the first place. Our invasion and poor planning lead to the vacuum that created ISIS. Just, wow.

[Andalusian girls]

you can say a lot of dumb things about American policy in the Middle East, and most of them have been said in the last few pages, but one of the dumbest is America installed Saddam Hussein as dictator in Iraq. his rise is a tortuous path in internal Ba'athist politics and Nasserian pan-Arabism that manifested in violence against the pro-West Hashemite monarchy (the people, you know, we actually did help install). and then there was that whole alliance with the Soviet Union thing.

[archibaldcrane]

The fact that they just dont like the west in general?????

...because literally all they can remember is chaos and war caused by the completely unjustified US invasion of their country.

[Salodin]

And no one is saying we're saints. What were saying is if we see a terrorist training camp, we will bomb said training camp. Y'all can build as many scarecrows as you want, if your answer to "what do we do about that base training fighters to kill americans" is "we were bad for being there in the first place" then you're missing the point. Sure maybe we shouldn't be there, but that doesn't change the fact that we located a kill-infidel factory and destroyed it. If you don't have a legitimate alternative but still want to say we shouldn't have bombed them, then I guess arm chair activism is alive and well.

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[Andalusian girls]

...because literally all they can remember is chaos and war caused by the completely unjustified US invasion of their country.

i actually glossed over 'Iraqi youth just don't like the West in general no particulars they just don't like it' that is in fact dumber than what i responded to, well done team. we've achieved new heights in shitposting today.