Terrorism Thread: It's Not Just Muslims. That's What They Want You to Think.

[6souls]

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/0...osque-shooting

NZ mosque shooting, 49 dead, 48 injured.

One man was arrested and charged with murder in what appeared to be a carefully planned racist attack. Police also defused explosive devices in a car.

Two other armed suspects were being held in custody. Police said they were trying to determine how they might be involved.

"It is clear that this can now only be described as a terrorist attack," Ardern said.

Police took three men and a woman into custody after the shootings, which shocked people across the nation of 5 million people. Police later said one of the arrests didn't relate to the shootings.

Authorities have not specified who they detained, but said none had been on any watch list. A man who claimed responsibility for the shootings left a 74-page anti-immigrant manifesto in which he explained who he was and his reasoning for the attack. He said he was a 28-year-old white Australian and a racist.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison confirmed that one of the people detained was an Australian-born citizen.

Bush said police had found two improvised explosive devices in one car, a clarification from an earlier statement that there were devices in multiple vehicles. He said they had disabled one and were in the process of disabling the second.

The deadliest attack occurred at the Al Noor mosque in central Christchurch at about 1:45 p.m., when 41 people were killed.

Witness Len Peneha said he saw a man dressed in black enter the mosque and then heard dozens of shots, followed by people running from the mosque in terror.

He said the gunman was white and was wearing a helmet with some kind of device on top, giving him a military-type appearance.

A video that was apparently livestreamed by the shooter shows the attack in horrifying detail. The gunman spends more than two minutes inside the mosque spraying terrified worshippers with bullets again and again, sometimes re-firing at people he has already cut down.

He then walks outside to the street, where he shoots at people on the sidewalk. Children's screams can be heard in the distance as he returns to his car to get another rifle.

The gunman then walks back into the mosque, where there are at least two dozen people lying on the ground. After walking back outside and shooting a woman there, he gets back in his car, where the song "Fire" by English rock band "The Crazy World of Arthur Brown" can be heard blasting from the speakers. The singer bellows, "I am the god of hellfire!" and the gunman drives away. The video then cuts out.

During a second shooting at the Linwood mosque about 3 miles from the Al Noor mosque, seven people were killed.

The man who claimed responsibility for the shooting said he came to New Zealand only to plan and train for the attack. He said he was not a member of any organization, but had donated to and interacted with many nationalist groups, though he acted alone and no group ordered the attack.

He said the mosques in Christchurch and Linwood would be the targets, as would a third mosque in the town of Ashburton if he could make it there.

He said he chose New Zealand because of its location, to show that even the most remote parts of the world were not free of "mass immigration."

[Fhloston]

Saw the vid via a Facebook link to Youtube. Taken down not long after. Wish I hadn't seen it. Figured after so many violent movies, FPS games and all that I would've been desensitized to it by now. Nope. Still disturbing as fuck b/c I know it's all real. Especially knowing that cocksucker acted so casual about it all, as if he was playing a FPS game. IDK how NZ's death penalty works, or if they even have one, but that asshole doesn't deserve to live after that.

[vagus]

It’s nuts. All planned, his attitude to kill is so cold.

Both sides will use this as ammo for there agenda. Time for government to put alt-right on the raider.


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[Fiye]

IDK how NZ's death penalty works, or if they even have one, but that asshole doesn't deserve to live after that.

A quick google search led me to see that they absolished it in 1961.

Personally hoping for flaying.

[Tymon]

This guy literally posted on /pol/ a couple hours before the attack.

I'm tired of hearing bleeding heart arguments about how we have to allow these cesspools to exist. I don't fucking care about your speech or your freedom. All that freedom isn't doing too well for all the POC getting genocided by these slugs.

Enough is enough. If you allow hateful rhetoric to exist on your platform you need to be taken down and prosecuted as aiding and abating terrorism. Individuals who perpetuate this should be prosecuted and thrown under the jail. All of these edgy white fucks might think twice about how epic their memes are once their buddies start getting hauled off to prison.

[Cream Soda]

Anyone have a link to them manifesto?

[TsingTao]

All of these edgy white fucks might think twice about how epic their memes are once their buddies start getting drawn and quartered on national TV.

Edited the last bit, otherwise I am on the same page.

[Stromgarde]

Stochastic terrorism is a hell of a thing. Absolute freedom of speech as an absolute good is a failed concept.

[Lucki]

Anyone have a link to them manifesto?

http://home.liamsc.com/nextcloud/ind...zynA#pdfviewer

[Tymon]

Stochastic terrorism is a hell of a thing. Absolute freedom of speech as an absolute good is a failed concept.

Absolute freedom of anything is a modern failure. Today information is too easily spread. It's too easy for people to just find stuff and get indoctrinated by some bullshit, especially young people who care less and are more easily influenced.

This is why just being proactive in removing toxic content online and elsewhere isn't enough. People will just see that as "the man" putting them down and make them even more rebellious. The only thing that gets through to kids and young people that are growing up to become these scumbags is fear. Fear of their lives being ruined.

This is why I've constantly been in favor of destroying icons and figures of hate as violently and publicly as possible. Any kind of ideology that even remotely tolerates this kind of behavior needs to not only be rejected but actively hunted and destroyed from the ground up.

Even right now we have an entire party and President in the US that's indirectly, if not openly supporting this kind of stuff being able to take hold. Completely fucking pathetic and unacceptable. Burn it down.

[AoE]

Yikes my dude.

[kuronosan]

Absolute freedom of anything is a modern failure. Today information is too easily spread. It's too easy for people to just find stuff and get indoctrinated by some bullshit, especially young people who care less and are more easily influenced.

This is why just being proactive in removing toxic content online and elsewhere isn't enough. People will just see that as "the man" putting them down and make them even more rebellious. The only thing that gets through to kids and young people that are growing up to become these scumbags is fear. Fear of their lives being ruined.

This is why I've constantly been in favor of destroying icons and figures of hate as violently and publicly as possible. Any kind of ideology that even remotely tolerates this kind of behavior needs to not only be rejected but actively hunted and destroyed from the ground up.

Even right now we have an entire party and President in the US that's indirectly, if not openly supporting this kind of stuff being able to take hold. Completely fucking pathetic and unacceptable. Burn it down.

Um. You are literally the problem.

[Dotsudoku]

if this is where the monarchy is headed, count me out

[6souls]

People will just see that as "the man" putting them down

[Byrthnoth]

#ChinaIsWinning

[Vaspinne]

#ChinaIsWinning

Why wait until the extremists kill the Muslims when the Government will just do it for them, amirite?

[archibaldcrane]

Yikes my dude.

Um. You are literally the problem.

https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312

[Niiro]

Now that I think about it:

"subscribe to pewdiepie" I cry as I open fire into the crowd

Sounds like a dril tweet.

[Byrthnoth]

Alright, hopefully this is the closest I'll ever get to a conspiracy theory.

I always have to step back when I see people come out hard in favor of government censorship and wonder how they got there. It happens so much these days and if you do the math on who would benefit from that becoming the norm, it's repressive regimes. It wouldn't be hard for China to influence the Twitter hivemind by funding/amplifying pro-censorship voices, thus legitimizing its domestic censorship policies.

I'm not saying we should all freeze our personal opinions and never change them, but if you suddenly start hearing a major shift like this, it is worth considering how easy it is to change our perception of public opinion by throwing pretty trivial amounts of capital (for a nation-state, potentially anonymously) at the loudest agreeable voices on social media. This pro-government censorship push from the left feels way too sudden to be organic.

[Fiye]

Absolute freedom of anything is a modern failure. Today information is too easily spread. It's too easy for people to just find stuff and get indoctrinated by some bullshit, especially young people who care less and are more easily influenced.

This is why just being proactive in removing toxic content online and elsewhere isn't enough. People will just see that as "the man" putting them down and make them even more rebellious. The only thing that gets through to kids and young people that are growing up to become these scumbags is fear. Fear of their lives being ruined.

This is why I've constantly been in favor of destroying icons and figures of hate as violently and publicly as possible. Any kind of ideology that even remotely tolerates this kind of behavior needs to not only be rejected but actively hunted and destroyed from the ground up.

Even right now we have an entire party and President in the US that's indirectly, if not openly supporting this kind of stuff being able to take hold. Completely fucking pathetic and unacceptable. Burn it down.

I feel your sentiment but here's the thing. These platforms aren't even proactive in removing toxic content even when its well documented. Its not until it becomes a problem we see them get deplatformed.

And the status of insane right wing nutjobs Milo and Alex Jones should show you how effective deplatforming is once it happens.

Alright, hopefully this is the closest I'll ever get to a conspiracy theory.

I always have to step back when I see people come out hard in favor of government censorship and wonder how they got there. It happens so much these days and if you do the math on who would benefit from that becoming the norm, it's repressive regimes. It wouldn't be hard for China to influence the Twitter hivemind by funding/amplifying pro-censorship voices, thus legitimizing its domestic censorship policies.

I'm not saying we should all freeze our personal opinions and never change them, but if you suddenly start hearing a major shift like this, it is worth considering how easy it is to change our perception of public opinion by throwing pretty trivial amounts of capital (for a nation-state, potentially anonymously) at the loudest agreeable voices on social media. This pro-government censorship push from the left feels way too sudden to be organic.

I mean isn't the basis of russiagate that they used bot farms to try to influence opinion on the 2016 election?