Afghanistan Thread: 16 years Later, America is still there

[Anoat]

That is until you explain to them that their son/brother/cousin/father/friend/etc literally died for nothing during the last 20 years of the Afghanistan campaign. Then they might be a little upset.

[Salodin]

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/sta...948020741?s=19

Lol for real. I really think the media elites got this one wrong, and they're fighting an uphill battle to make the average Joe angry about ending another one of those endless wars.

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[Lyltia]

This was always going to be the outcome of us leaving Afghanistan. While they definitely shit the bed on the withdrawal, Biden deserves credit for ripping off this particular band-aid, not condemnation.

That is until you explain to them that their son/brother/cousin/father/friend/etc literally died for nothing during the last 20 years of the Afghanistan campaign. Then they might be a little upset.

Providing what stability there was for 20 years is not nothing.

[6souls]

Did we at least get the translators out?

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1427315294498967555?s=20

[Lyltia]

Serious question: Is there a compelling reason that we withdrew our troops before our civilians / allies? I'm no four-star general, but that seems pretty fucking backward to me.

[synistar]

I don't think the worst case scenario intelligence would believe the entire Afghan army and government would peace out in less than 9 days.

[mallister]

That's because it's ass fucking backwards.

[thetruepandagod]

by the time casual observers like you lot started paying attention the heaviest fighting was over.

OI YA CUNT i was watching stuff about it months ago

[thetruepandagod]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/142...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Tymon]

He doubled down, which he should have.

The only plausible counter argument is that Trump set the date at 5/1/21 and it should have been met instead of >90 days later. That will and probably should be the subject of debate. But anybody seriously trying to argue that we shouldn't have left is out of their gourd.

[Cail]

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/sta...70483137945605

[thetruepandagod]

He doubled down, which he should have.

The only plausible counter argument is that Trump set the date at 5/1/21 and it should have been met instead of >90 days later. That will and probably should be the subject of debate. But anybody seriously trying to argue that we shouldn't have left is out of their gourd.

we most definitely should not have left

[archibaldcrane]

a shameful day in the long shameful history of American foreign policy. our presence there was largely as a stabilizing force, and had been for years as combat operations ended long ago and there had not been a combat casualty in 18 months. and as a stabilizing force we were successful, in the time following the end of American combat operations the Taliban had not taken and held a single provincial capital. when they managed to break government lines the U.S. organized and air-supported Afghani-fought efforts to retake said capitals, with an unfailing success rate. in the two months after we left without setting up a functional transition or negotiating a peace treaty they gobbled up 16 before the government itself collapsed utterly and Kabul fell without a fight.

withdrawing saved no American lives, condemned forty million Afghanis to fundamentalist tyranny, showed regional allies yet again Americans cannot be relied upon in the long-term (to compound on our betrayal and abandonment of the Kurds), stranded thousands of American supporters to the mercy of our enemies because of simple organizational incompetence re withdrawal plans, and hastened the formation of who knows what vile Islamist concoction to be borne out of such fertile environs a la al-Qaeda and ISIS. an unnecessary and self-inflicted wound, and a catastrophic foreign policy failure of the Biden administration.

https://twitter.com/SpecialPuppy1/st...19949136121862

[Tyrath]

we most definitely should not have entered

FTFY

[thetruepandagod]

FTFY

no it was good for us to enter.

[Sepukku]

we most definitely should not have left

Getting us out of Afghanistan is one of the first things I collectively thank both Trump and Biden for helping do.

[thetruepandagod]

yall dumb, furreal

[Mertron]

https://twitter.com/jackdwagner/stat...618471425?s=21

[Mertron]

it’s really a golden age of takes on twitter the last 48 hours, thank you for your service

[thetruepandagod]

https://twitter.com/AmandaMilius/sta...38941074710533