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    I took Salter for NP2 (I also don't have an AoE buster Saber aside her). I have a lot of 4s from the list I would already use. I kind of wanted Wu, but I wouldn't use her with already having jack and Cleo. I would of gone for Gorgon but I got NP2 of her when pulling for MHXA. Also, unless you are really dedicated to Gorgon her materials suck big time for being a *4.

    I'm really running out of servants to level and still about 25 more boxes to open. I have NP1 Drake I would like to level, but I have enough Drakes on my flist for when I need them and I already have Nito for farming in general/doors. And her ascension materials are kind of offense as she needs a lot of bronze materials. If I ever got a another spook for NP2 then I would for sure level her.

    I also have Gilgamesh Caster (NP1) who might be nice to level for times when I would use him over Tamamo. Then there is Scheherazade (who really sucks and is niche once she gets her upgrade) or Emiya (NP4), or Tama Cat I could level. Only reason I could think of leveling Emiya is for a possible challenge quest down the line as I have Gilgamesh and Ishtar for AoE purposes. Or I can always just level Hans, George, and/or Medea.

    What are all your thoughts on the Gold Fou's? I am either holding onto them to use for Houkasi or going to use them on Nero Bride or MHXA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    I took Salter for NP2 (I also don't have an AoE buster Saber aside her). I have a lot of 4s from the list I would already use. I kind of wanted Wu, but I wouldn't use her with already having jack and Cleo. I would of gone for Gorgon but I got NP2 of her when pulling for MHXA. Also, unless you are really dedicated to Gorgon her materials suck big time for being a *4.

    I'm really running out of servants to level and still about 25 more boxes to open. I have NP1 Drake I would like to level, but I have enough Drakes on my flist for when I need them and I already have Nito for farming in general/doors. And her ascension materials are kind of offense as she needs a lot of bronze materials. If I ever got a another spook for NP2 then I would for sure level her.

    I also have Gilgamesh Caster (NP1) who might be nice to level for times when I would use him over Tamamo. Then there is Scheherazade (who really sucks and is niche once she gets her upgrade) or Emiya (NP4), or Tama Cat I could level. Only reason I could think of leveling Emiya is for a possible challenge quest down the line as I have Gilgamesh and Ishtar for AoE purposes. Or I can always just level Hans, George, and/or Medea.

    What are all your thoughts on the Gold Fou's? I am either holding onto them to use for Houkasi or going to use them on Nero Bride or MHXA.
    Use them on whoever makes your dick the hardest. It takes about a year to max fou someone, so just make sure it's not a regret. Hokusai is good target, but I think her meta-ness is way overblown by people on JP. MHXA is very good target for fous, especially if you're getting Skadi in July. She's the go to ST berserker, especially if you get a higher NP level. Bride is good, since she has utility as DPS or support. If you use her as mainly support, I wouldn't bother.

    I max ascended everyone on my account now. Only have 7 characters not at max level now, but do have enough embers for them. Not going to use incase I decide to take Rider Ishtar from 90 to 100 sometime soon, or luck into another new servant.

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    I really want to level Ishtar's Riders skills but I need to farm some shells during some downtime. Which based on the assumed schedule we aren't getting for a while. And damn, having nearly everyone max ascended is pretty huge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanecyclone View Post
    I chose Gorgon because some big giant reasons
    A man of culture, I see.

    Picked LAlter, myself, as she's eluded me the few times I tried for her. Otherwise, think I need Gorgon and Raikou to flesh out my titty harem since I've got both Titorias now and Passionlip.

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    Gilgamesh got an animation update on JP, and it's pretty nice:



    Also got lucky on the banner and got my second copy of Gilgamesh.



    Shopkeeper is Siduri. Maybe surprise Siduri servant? lol


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    I kinda like his current animations better. >.>

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    Apparently I burned this event's CEs because I only have two Romani CE's on my second archive and the 5* one :/

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    Tried for NP2 Lartoria...

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    First 10 roll




    Time to grail her to 100, plus Salter also responded, which I also wanted since I have 0 AoE sabers.


    I'm stuck at which 4* to get, I have Zerkalot for Skadi memes, probably need him at least at NP2 to work, then agian I don't even have a Kscope and you need a MLB one to 3 turn so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarian View Post
    Tried for NP2 Lartoria...

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    First 10 roll




    Time to grail her to 100, plus Salter also responded, which I also wanted since I have 0 AoE sabers.


    I'm stuck at which 4* to get, I have Zerkalot for Skadi memes, probably need him at least at NP2 to work, then agian I don't even have a Kscope and you need a MLB one to 3 turn so....

    If you plan on Skadi, grab another Lancelot. He wants NP3. NP1 works, but falls apart on wave 2 midbosses. NP3 gets you through pretty much everything. You also don't need MLB Kscope. 1 is fine, especially if you bring a Waver along too.

    Grats on Lartoria.

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    I think you just convinced me to not get Zerkalot, I might have went for him if the line was NP2, but needing NP3 -and- waver (and a Kscope -.-) for something that I can almost already do, is way too much of an investment, even more so if you consider that if you don't get Skadi, Zerkalot is virtually useless.

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    Without Skadi, Zerkerlot is still one of the best farmers in the game. He has a high damaging AOE NP that buffs his attack, and shits out stars for the next turn and guarantees crits. On top of that, he's one of the few berserkers that comes with a critical buff, on top of being able to actually absorb the stars he creates.

    The reason why Lancelot system is extremely good (outside of 3 turns) is so that during events, you can load up on bonus CE in the back, without it effecting your frontline.

    Kscope and Mages Assocation works as well, without a Waver.

    He's insanely good without Skadi.

    TL;DR: Lancelot functions very similarly to Atalante pre-Skadi. Kill wave 1, crit wave 2.

    Lancelot should have a a solo rateup during the Fate/Zero re-run, in August. We also get another 4* select summon next year.


    This is an old chart for Skadi looping. There's an updated one, but I can't seem to find it.

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    From my experience, his NP hits like a wet noodle since he has zero attack buffs (not counting his OC), he's only usable at NP2+ IMO, without Skadi he's a much worse Raiko.

    I didn't know about getting another 4* ticket, I'll look that up, and about the solo rate up, sadly he shares the banner with saber Diarmund for the F/Z rerun.

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    Well, let's math it out. Attack is calculated with Lv. 20 Kscope.

    Lancelot NP1
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    ATK+30% (Waver)
    
    NP DMG: 21,601-26,405
    Okay, somewhat low. But enough to generally kill wave 1 and 2, exception being midbosses with medium-high HP.

    Lancelot NP1
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    Quick +100% (Skadi x2)
    
    NP DMG: 33,237 - 40,623
    That's without an attack buff, which would push it much higher. That's respectable damage, and is pushing towards wave 2 boss HP. Let's see how it fares with NP2, using double Skadi and no attack

    Code:
    Quick +100% (Skadi x2)
    
    NP DMG: 57,611 - 70,413
    At NP2, I think that's very respectable damage, and will serve for a majority of things, especially when you account for the 100% crit chance. Lancelot would only need 1 card of any type to clean up on wave 2 enemies.

    NP3
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    Quick +100% (Skadi x2)
    
    NP DMG: 64,812 - 79,215
    About 10% higher than NP2. I think for the most part, if you have NP2, you're good for majority of content. The numbers also don't have an attack buff, which Lancelot would have 10% at minimum for on wave 2.

    Damage goes much higher with different CE's obviously.

    You can mess around with the buffs/damage/atk, etc on this spreadsheet. Just make a copy of it:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=721915311

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    That's a pretty neat calculator, thanks for sharing.

    I've been toying with it and Lartoria NP2 can loop once with decent enough damage with Kscope and x2 Merlin as long as there isn't any saber with high HP, though it's not as good as Skadi shenanigans since you'd still need Arash or something to clear the first wave which is a bonus CE less for events

    Salter NP2 is quite tempting, she does way better damage than any of the AoE 5* at NP1 and that means I wouldn't need to roll for one for general farming stuff.

    I remember reading a few months ago that the problem with Lancelot+Skadi is not so much if he's able to kill the enemies but being able to kill them with enough overkill to get enough NP back to keep looping. I expected more than 6-7k extra damage from NP2 to NP3 though.

    I already have him, so I might settle for NP2 for the next year's free 4* (still need a Kscope and Skadi, which can backfire pretty badly, it's not possible to loop without either of them), and who knows, there's still a chance he'll show his gargling face when rolling for other stuff just like it happened to you with Merlin.

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    There's this recent video showcasing different servants with 2x Skadi, Zerkalot shows up at the 7 minute mark



    Seems that you need either Waver (Nero Bride probably works too) or MLB Kscope with the 2004 Mystic Code to pull it off 100% safely, since even at NP4 and a 50% NP gain buff he gets 60% NP back for the first wave.

    Anyway, went with NP2 Salter for the ticket since there's still a year ahead for Skadi and I'll most likely get more out of having a viable AoE Saber than Zerkalot NP2 sitting on the second archive till I get Skadi and a Kscope.

    Speaking about Kscope, they should do a Kscope rate up or something, that thing is getting harder and harder to come by as time goes on and more 5* CEs get added to the pool.

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    Current halloween event is bugged. You can't actually enter the Westerners challenge quest, which locks out the rest of the event. Hoping they fix it sooner, rather than later, but no news from DW on either twitter, facebook, official site, etc.

    In other news, I'm currently on box 69 on JP. My CE drop rate has been literally ridiculous, and a complete opposite of Nerofest on NA. I've gotten ~11 CE, and I'm currently running +9 bonus 3 turn setup >.>

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    Ishtar animation update. Nothing huge like Gilgamesh's or Karna's, but an update is nice:



    TL;DW: NP touched up a bit, has more effects. New skill animation. New buster2/3 animation. Arts/quick are touched up and look nicer. EX too.

    I'll be rolling for her on JP on the 5th I think. Would like her atleast NP1 on JP, though I definitely don't need her.

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    I liked her animation of tossing her gems better as that was what Rin did in Heavens Feel: Stay Night.

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    Ishtar banner on JP, so rolled.

    20 tickets, absolutely shit.

    First Multiroll:


    Decided to do a little more to try for NP2 Ishtar or NP1 Gilgamesh Caster.



    150SQ for Ishtar, GilCas, Prisma Cosmos and Starry Nights is worth it. Wish I could get 4 more copies of Starry Nights, but that ain't happening.

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    October 10th

    Let NA be salty at some of the fights. Some are quite annoying due to forced Musashit support in frontline.

    https://fate-go.us/news/?category=NE...10_shimousa%2F

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