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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Never understood why TVs aren't professionally calibrated and then have that be the preset for the customer. It makes absolutely no sense to not have them looking as good as possible straight out of the box for customer satisfaction.
    That's something I can speak to. There's too much variation and no company is going to spend the time and money to individually test and calibrate every set that comes off the production line. Interestingly enough, identical models often have different panels inside of them. Eventually some people figure out which production codes correspond to which panels and go to some lengths to get the best ones. Even so, no two sets calibrate exactly the same although you can often find generic settings that people share online that get you a large portion of the way there. Also you have to calibrate for the viewing environment (brightness and contrast moreso than color). I'm a bit of a purest in setting the most accurate color possible but you'd be surprised how many people just want "bright" and "colorful" at significant expense to the actual quality. Many people find truly accurate color to be flat or bland to their taste. Panels change over time too and I recalibrate once every 12-18 months. It wouldn't surprise me if slight variations in the electrical cause differences as well.

    Some higher end computer monitors do go through calibration at the factory.

    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    I have always wondered that too. The one time it was explained to me when I worked in a custom high end stereo store was that TV presets are set up so the TV's look good out of the box in big warehouse stores when they are set up. The TV's look better this way in brightly lit large stores. The settings you want for a living room are much different.
    This is true, although I'm not sure how much of that is out-of-the-box settings vs the stores jacking everything up to look better in the showroom.

    Something I just recently learned is that it's theoretically possible for a television to do real-time adjustments to ensure accurate colors but it's computationally prohibitive.

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    Alot of newer HDR TVs will auto adjust in relation to the environment, which I believe is actually part of the HDR spec.

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    That's just brightness though as far as I know and most experiences I've had with it are just hamfisted and annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamison View Post
    you can often find generic settings that people share online that get you a large portion of the way there.
    This is really all I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    This is really all I mean.
    I get what you are saying but the panels inside, personal tastes and watching environments are all different. I'm sure they have a method to pick generic settings to ship with but that will naturally fall short.

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    TV works great. Configured the picture according to forums and stuff. Mounted it as well. Hurray for not getting Tyven'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    TV works great. Configured the picture according to forums and stuff. Mounted it as well. Hurray for not getting Tyven'd
    Link to TV? Just curious about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    TV works great. Configured the picture according to forums and stuff. Mounted it as well. Hurray for not getting Tyven'd
    Very JEAL. My 4th one works lol. This is what my guest bedroom currently looks like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    Link to TV? Just curious about it.
    https://www.amazon.com/All-New-Eleme.../dp/B06XDC9RBJ

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    Once we sell our 50" plasma we'll start looking for a deal on a 70". The price difference from 60 to 70 is just crazy though. Might have to do one of those Dell deals where the price seems normal but you get a $200 or so gift card for Dell with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    Once we sell our 50" plasma we'll start looking for a deal on a 70". The price difference from 60 to 70 is just crazy though. Might have to do one of those Dell deals where the price seems normal but you get a $200 or so gift card for Dell with it.
    even 60 would be too much for me. I'm in a 375 sqft studio right now and the 55 is almost too big for where I watch from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    even 60 would be too much for me. I'm in a 375 sqft studio right now and the 55 is almost too big for where I watch from.
    Yeah that would be for you. Our living room is very spacious and we have 10 foot ceilings in it. We love the 60" plasma we have, but just like the 50 we get too much glare as our living room has a ton of light.

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    Use curtains to put it in shadow, or at least reduce the light level somewhat. I used a nice off white cream color for diffusion, and a nice solid curtain if the glare got real bad. Else, arrange furniture so sun comes from behind tv. Then youll really want curtains.


    Alternatively, git gud.

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    We have curtains on every window (which we have many). They aren't the best. We're going to be doing interior work soon so we'll look at other options. Wife says she wants a 70 regardless though.

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    Just got the Amazon Echo that my girl ordered.

    Instantly one of the best purchases we've ever made on the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Just got the Amazon Echo that my girl ordered.

    Instantly one of the best purchases we've ever made on the site.
    It's so tight

    oh full size echo? ok, can't comment on said tightness (for the money)

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    I don't like the always on. At least with the TV I have to press the button to get it to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalmado View Post
    We have curtains on every window (which we have many). They aren't the best. We're going to be doing interior work soon so we'll look at other options. Wife says she wants a 70 regardless though.
    I just put towels up if don't want to (or can't) get new curtains

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I don't like the always on. At least with the TV I have to press the button to get it to work.
    How can the AI learn if they're not always listening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I don't like the always on. At least with the TV I have to press the button to get it to work.
    Meh. It's only "always on" if you are "always saying 'Alexa'"

    unless you're going for a paranoid CIA angle

    i mean, your TV is always on too as long as it's plugged in, constantly seeking out the "power up" signal from your remote, just like the Echo is constantly seeking out the word "Alexa".

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