http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42277309 Full story in case anyone curious. Fucking awful. Couldn't have handled that much worse.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42277309 Full story in case anyone curious. Fucking awful. Couldn't have handled that much worse.
Well I can't unsee that.
The rifle the officer used had the inscription "You're Fucked" carved into it.
Officer is obviously fucked up in the head and should be in jail.
That said, was he ex-military with PTSD or just a poser acting like some hotel in the Phoenix sprawl was a warzone?
He had "bad training."
I don't understand why he wasn't approached, I dont think I've ever seen the "crawl to me" tactic. Is that normal?
Couldn't get a reason to murder him, so kept asking him to do stuff until he did.
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The only defense i can see for the cop is that it looked like the guy was reaching in his pocket before he fired.
Having said that, cop was power trippin and looking for an excuse to shoot. Is "lie down on your stomach with your hands behind your head" then going in to cuff such a difficult concept to subdue? What the fuck is this "hands down hands up hands behind your head crawl to me recite the Russian national anthem while counting to 1000 in prime numbers only" bullshit?
what the absolute fuck. I wish I hadn't pressed play on that.
well you do have a full 4+ minutes to nope out
Showed video to coworkers, all firefighters medics and PD. Pmuch the same reaction as this threads. Also showed them the gun, our department has a major policy about any changes or modifications to duty weapons. You can't fucking breathe on your shit without asking for permission.
I've watched a bunch of training videos our SRU (Special Response Unit, basically SWAT), as well as various Urban Shield Scenarios while working IT for that event, and I don't recall a single one where the suspect was ordered to crawl to the officers, so yeah I don't think that is a very common tactic. Wish JMC still posted here to get his thoughts on it.
That said, the only thing I can think about is that they may have been told there was a third person in the room (supposedly their friend left before the police arrived) and didn't want to move any of the officers close to the door until they could confirm they were the only two.
I just can't.
I mean. Yes I can understand how his verdict was not guilty because we are so fucked up about charging cops.
But I just can't believe that even this the dude got off. I mean....fuck.
Just wonder but is this the place where Sheriff Arpaio would've had jurisdiction under?
edit: yes it is.
As a note, the cop yelling all the orders is not the same as the cop that killed the guy. The one yelling orders mentioned in court that he would have shot the guy as well had the other cop not been in his line of fire.
Tbh I actually have to say I think they got this right. Don't lose your shit BG, it's my opinion.
They couldn't secure the suspect where he was because of potential danger of him being in front of the hotel doors and they have no idea if anyone else is in there or armed. Based on the information they had, they're dealing with an armed suspect. The movement he made is no different from dozens of other videos where suspects did actually pull a gun. In that situation, the cops don't have time to wait and see. It's potentially their lives if he did actually have one.
It's really fucking tragic, but I can't justify charging the officer either. I'm obviously not a cop, but based on the reaction and information from close family that's in law enforcement, it wasn't handled perfectly, but it certainly wasn't malicious or negligent.
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I wouldn't call it malicious however i would call it negligent as fuck and bring down a full on investigation into the department.
That ar-15 mod alone should get heads rolling. Putting that cop in jail wouldn't fix shit as much as I'd like to see some justice get served aside from a civil settlement.