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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    "Don't scare cops because they might get jumpy and shoot you if you're the wrong color."

    The number of news stories you can find where a white person has pulled a weapon on cops and/or shot at them hey walked away with minimal injuries completely suggests they know what they're doing but hate brown people so much they lay the ground work in these situations with the "we were afraid for our lives".

    What this guy did was shit but please stop with the cops treat all suspects the same and a white suspect would've ended up dead as well is incorrect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Saying white people walk away more often from confrontations involving weapons with LEO =/= white people never get shot by cops.

    It means white people are given way more leeway in their interactions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    406 people shot and killed by police in 2019. 85 of them white, 52 black, 217 unknown in that list. So much for that white idiots don't get shot and killed by cops theory.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.799404550637
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    The goalposts weren't ever moved. Literally in my post that white people walk away from these situations more often than not with their lives. 217 incidents in which the race wasn't listed. So yeah those statistics aren't complete to prove anything.

    33 fewer black people killed than white people 6 months into 2019. 217 cases in which the cops don't list the race. Like I said brown people are more likely to die in their interactions with LEO going by the % of the population white people and black people make up in the US more black people are killed during their interactions with cops.
    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Keep moving those goal posts. The odds of coming out alive from ramming your car into multiple patrol cars, to only exit with a loaded rifle trained at a cop are pretty much nil, regardless of your race. This sure as hell isn't even in the same continent as the guy in Vallejo who was sleeping with a gun on his lap and got lit up.
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    Even with a statistic(s) to prove you wrong, you move the goalposts this quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    "Don't scare cops because they might get jumpy and shoot you if you're the wrong color."

    The number of news stories you can find where a white person has pulled a weapon on cops and/or shot at them hey walked away with minimal injuries completely suggests they know what they're doing but hate brown people so much they lay the ground work in these situations with the "we were afraid for our lives".

    What this guy did was shit but please stop with the cops treat all suspects the same and a white suspect would've ended up dead as well is incorrect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Guess he moved the goal posts too. No where did I say that cops dont shoot white people.
    You literally made a post saying it never happens/makes the news and I flat out posted statistics showing it does happen. God damn you're thick. But oh well it's obvious you're obsessed with me as you keep mashing that f5 button to find every post I make.

    Eventually you'll get bored and leave BG like the last time you stopped getting all that attention that you so desperately crave dries up. I'd say go hang out with friends at a club but you'd still be glued to your phone to constantly refresh BG to continue another internet argument.

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    Tbf the police are not uniquely terrible. They reflect our society's biases and structure.

    plus what chronic stress does to decision making

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    Pretty sure the thread is back to being as terrible as it was when notorious bum was still around, maybe even worse. Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petitssk View Post
    Pretty sure the thread is back to being as terrible as it was when notorious bum was still around, maybe even worse. Thanks a lot.
    Only if we find out Milk is secretly white.

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    I'm given to understand the issue of OIS has less to do with a lack of training and more to do with the wrong type of training.

    My understanding, from ex-military friends who avoid law enforcement like the plague, is that cops are trained primarily to identify and neutralize threats and that many trainers emphasize the need for hypervigilance if the officers want to make it home to their loved ones. The job is billed as action movie levels of dangerous despite 3/4 of all police officers having never fired their weapons on duty a single time in their entire career (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...eapon-on-duty/)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    You literally made a post saying it never happens/makes the news and I flat out posted statistics showing it does happen. God damn you're thick. But oh well it's obvious you're obsessed with me as you keep mashing that f5 button to find every post I make.

    Eventually you'll get bored and leave BG like the last time you stopped getting all that attention that you so desperately crave dries up. I'd say go hang out with friends at a club but you'd still be glued to your phone to constantly refresh BG to continue another internet argument.

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    Go quote the post where I said white people are literally never shot by the cops. No one said it white people are never shot by cops. I'll wait though.

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    Comparing "shot by cops" stats should really compare unarmed people, not everyone shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Comparing "shot by cops" stats should really compare unarmed people, not everyone shot.

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    That'd be hard because


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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    You literally made a post saying it never happens/makes the news and I flat out posted statistics showing it does happen. God damn you're thick. But oh well it's obvious you're obsessed with me as you keep mashing that f5 button to find every post I make.

    Eventually you'll get bored and leave BG like the last time you stopped getting all that attention that you so desperately crave dries up. I'd say go hang out with friends at a club but you'd still be glued to your phone to constantly refresh BG to continue another internet argument.

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    Been saying this for the past month or two. The guy doesn’t care for honest discussion and only goes for the hottest of takes. Prove him wrong and he either moves the goal post or becomes an expert in whatever is the subject at hand.

    Pay no attention to him and watch how he swarms back to day or nynja to instigate any kind of argument lol.

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    So are you dismissing all of Milkster's criticisms?

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    Ridiculous Police News (Specific Events): Twin Cities police are frightened easily.

    Why bother giving him the time or day when there’s plenty of other posters in this thread who can disseminate and engage in the information presented in a more objective manner? Dude is the new notorious bum who doesn’t even read half the clickbait articles he posts.

    People who speak in absolutes in this section almost always comes across as some community college freshman who just learned about Chomsky. Shit is pointless to talk to them until their balls in life drop.

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    But you can't point the actions to just one police officer when talking about this sort of thing. There's a system that protects the individual officers. From police unions to attorney generals to judges to even juries. If any one of these points don't convict them criminally and the particular district they work for do anything then we get mad.

    And even in some egregious cases the individuals who get fired still manage to get hired for another district or city. There's a system issue and its fucking enraging to see how the military is held to such a insanely higher standard in how it conducts themselves.

    Milkster fucking rants and he goes for defenses where there really is no fucking defense but he isn't concern trolling. He's fucking mad.

    Because at the end of tde way who's responsible for shit like this?

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...oll-theft.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    But you can't point the actions to just one police officer when talking about this sort of thing. There's a system that protects the individual officers. From police unions to attorney generals to judges to even juries. If any one of these points don't convict them criminally and the particular district they work for do anything then we get mad.

    And even in some egregious cases the individuals who get fired still manage to get hired for another district or city. There's a system issue and its fucking enraging to see how the military is held to such a insanely higher standard in how it conducts themselves.

    Milkster fucking rants and he goes for defenses where there really is no fucking defense but he isn't concern trolling. He's fucking mad.

    Because at the end of tde way who's responsible for shit like this?

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...oll-theft.html
    They ignore the systematic and institutional support cops have and the protection they get because the American population at large has been fed the propaganda that everyday these people are "going to war" yet lead some of the most boring careers. You get these cops (and there are way too many of them) who have a hero complex and wanna live out their action movie and go immediately to 100 over the most innocuous things especially when it's involving black and brown people.

    The end of the day people who do the "well cops kill more white civilians than black people, why are you upset". You should be upset cops are gunning down that many civilians period. And then nothing happens because it's found out putting 50+ rounds into an unarmed person was justified because a group of power drunk sociopaths got trigger happy.

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    The end of the day people who do the "well cops kill more white civilians than black people, why are you upset". You should be upset cops are gunning down that many civilians period.
    This is huge and something a ton of people don't get. Up in that twitter thread above there were people genuinely suggesting that whites act as human shields for POC because police won't shoot a white person ever. Nah dude, that cop is going to kill the fuck out of you. Cops overwhelmingly slaughter just about every color of human around and turning it purely into a race issue is both super dangerous and not conductive to actually fixing the problem.

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    Ridiculous Police News (Specific Events): Twin Cities police are frightened easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Comparing "shot by cops" stats should really compare unarmed people, not everyone shot.

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    And not just unarmed, as in no firearm. Compare the ones who didn’t attack officers, hit them with cars etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc View Post
    And not just unarmed, as in no firearm. Compare the ones who didn’t attack officers, hit them with cars etc...
    Eh, there's a little too much "he drove a car near me so I emptied my clip into the vehicle as it sped away" for my taste. I'll stick with just unarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    This is huge and something a ton of people don't get. Up in that twitter thread above there were people genuinely suggesting that whites act as human shields for POC because police won't shoot a white person ever. Nah dude, that cop is going to kill the fuck out of you. Cops overwhelmingly slaughter just about every color of human around and turning it purely into a race issue is both super dangerous and not conductive to actually fixing the problem.
    They're asking that because police as a collective treat whites differently than people of color. Your last sentence completely ignore the issue that the Black Lives Matter group is focused around.

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    The trouble with separating race from the issue is that, as we've historically seen with women's movements in the 20th century, "fixing the problem on its own" rarely extends beyond a solution for whites before momentum is lost and mission accomplished banners are hoisted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Eh, there's a little too much "he drove a car near me so I emptied my clip into the vehicle as it sped away" for my taste. I'll stick with just unarmed.
    I smelled weed and was scared for my life.

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