PC Principal: Get Off My Lawn

[GoggleHead]

Google fired the guy. I am ready for some scorching hot BG takes. fuck me up with that good shit, fam

Controversial opinions aren't allowed fam. The Overton Window has some steel bars on it. Google be a rough neighborhood yo.

[tyven]

Controversial opinions aren't allowed fam. The Overton Window has some steel bars on it. Google be a rough neighborhood yo.

I LOVE that the anti-PC crowd is just as incapable of nuance as SJWs. It fucking rules that people emailing their coworkers like "hey you're a token hire and this company might be worse off for having you" is a hill you'll die on. Hell yes

[tyven]

A good test that we should all be able to agree on:

Controversial opinion deserving of protection: "I question hiring practices that place more importance on meeting a quota than experience/qualification"

suicide note: "I question hiring practices that place more importance on meeting a quota than experience/qualification because women are neurotic"

[GoggleHead]

No one should have to live with the insidious doubt of their own abilities, the fear that they might only be there because of an accident of birth rather than the fact that they're good at what they do. That's just fucking kicking someone in the nuts under the table. The fact that token hires can even be a thing is despicable.

[tyven]

No one should have to live with the insidious doubt of their own abilities, the fear that they might only be there because of an accident of birth rather than the fact that they're good at what they do. That's just fucking kicking someone in the nuts under the table. The fact that token hires can even be a thing is despicable.

look at you on the verge of a breakthrough. So do you think it wise for a senior engineer to tell his coworkers that they are genetically inferior for the position? or are you just flat out saying you think female hires are tokens that "live with the insidious doubt of their own abilities" and they shouldnt be at the table anyway so this dude deserves a green light to say it to them?

[thetruepandagod]

He just said women on average don't handle stress as well as men bruh, you are the one claiming thats an inferiority thing !

[Greatguardian]

I thought he just claimed that women on average don't seek out high stress positions as often as males do because they don't face as much societal pressure to accumulate status at all costs.

[GoggleHead]

Nah bro, I've worked with enough women in the tech sector to know there's some that know their shit, but there's also women who get hired who need me to hold their hand through the most basic troubleshooting or have me debug their code without even looking at it despite the fact that they got hired on as a dedicated programmer while I got hired on in a less technical role. There's more of the latter than the former, but that doesn't mean the former doesn't exist. I'm saying if you've got corporate headhunters or HR departments screeching for X% of hires must be Y demographic it's gonna fuck things up. Throw all that shit out and just hire people who know their shit and get along with the rest of the team and let the chips fall where they may. Don't hire people based on demographics. Ever.

[tyven]

I thought he just claimed that women on average don't seek out high stress positions as often as males do because they don't face as much societal pressure to accumulate status at all costs.

He absolutely did mention men's higher drive for status leads them to high stress jobs, unfortunately he also mentioned women's higher level of neuroticism may be what keeps them out of high stress jobs.

[tyven]

Nah bro, I've worked with enough women in the tech sector to know there's some that know their shit, but there's also women who get hired who need me to hold their hand through the most basic troubleshooting or have me debug their code without even looking at it despite the fact that they got hired on as a dedicated programmer while I got hired on in a less technical role. There's more of the latter than the former, but that doesn't mean the former doesn't exist. I'm saying if you've got corporate headhunters or HR departments screeching for X% of hires must be Y demographic it's gonna fuck things up. Throw all that shit out and just hire people who know their shit and get along with the rest of the team and let the chips fall where they may. Don't hire people based on demographics. Ever.

nice, this is a perfectly acceptable opinion that shouldn't get you fired imp. You see the difference between what you said and what he said though, right? There's no reason to cape for him. He fucked up, you aren't betraying your crusade against PC culture by admitting it.

[thetruepandagod]

He absolutely did mention men's higher drive for status leads them to high stress jobs, unfortunately he also mentioned women's higher level of neuroticism may be what keeps them out of high stress jobs.

Odd, neuroticism has been nothing but a boon for the jews.

[tyven]

Odd, neuroticism has been nothing but a boon for the jews.

this is what Jay Z was actually talking about in the story of OJ

[NynJa]

Don't hire people based on demographics. Ever.

False-ish
If all things are equal, or near equal, ie: educational background, certifications, etc etc, then go for the demographics. If someone has a significantly stronger background credentials than the other applicants, they shouldn't be dismissed because they're a white male.

[Deftscythe]

No one should have to live with the insidious doubt of their own abilities

Dude acting like he never heard of imposter syndrome.

[Niiro]

No one should have to live with the insidious doubt of their own abilities

My heart goes out to the Trump family.

[Galkaeater]

I just got around to reading it, from the reactions I was expecting plans to turn Google headquarters into Auschwitz instead I get something incredibly tame with the acidity of somewhere between milk and water. I can see why people are mad though any hint of even a tiny bit of biological essentialism is anathema to their worldview.
I assume his job was well paid so if I was in his shoes I would of kept the job over sharing my extremely moderate thoughts, or maybe the job was shity and getting fired was his intention but if that was the case why not write about turning Google into Auschwitz.

[Guitarman]

In the end it's a bunch of people making well into six figures having verbal slap-fights with each other. Yawn. Probably could've done a coin toss to post the OP in here or First World Problems thread.

[Galkaeater]

Even though tyven comes across as having barely comprehended a 10 page manifesto I can sorta agree with him that adding the bit about neurotism was a bad idea since neurotics hate nothing more than being called neurotic.

[Psion]

Even though tyven comes across as having barely comprehended a 10 page manifesto I can sorta agree with him that adding the bit about neurotism was a bad idea since neurotics hate nothing more than being called neurotic.

i once teased my mother as a kid by calling her this. worst. mistake. EVER.

Perhaps thats around when i learned that showing off the big words i learned from reading wasnt always a good idea...

[Fiye]

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