Muh Guns (gun violence thread)

[dasva]

I agree that a "generic mental health" label is pretty broad. But did your PTSD lead you to be involuntarily committed to a hospital? Takes some pretty severe shit for that to occur, and we could save our reservations for such occurrences. Such an occurrence wouldn't even have to be an automatic rejection, it could lead to a closer look at the individual trying to buy a firearm, their background, their mental state, etc.

It doesn't always though. Examples with no documented history of mental illness and being cleared by psychiatric twice had my neurologist threaten to get me committed if I didn't go to some group therapy.

Or how about someone I was in nuke school with. While what happened was a bit more extreme (lost track of about a day and ended up with minor burns in the shape of letters in his arm) it wasn't exactly his fault. They had proscribed him a cocktail of various psychotropics for his insomnia and migraines and threatened to write him up if he take them... and then all of a sudden they realized he can't be on any of that and still be in the navy so they made him go cold turkey. While still kind of out of it he got told volunteer or be volunteered. He volunteered but got entered as involuntary. Whoops. Funny part was I went in to medical for the same stuff but got told to fuck off because I had .1 higher gpa so I was "clearly coping well enough"

Or another guy who had been shit on by the entire chain of command for I shit you not being Canadian. Or more specifically having dual Canadian and US citizenship. All the stress effected performance which made him have to stay late which stressed relationship which meant even less sleep so he was kind of always out of it. My ex actually reported him as being suicidal and next day gone not a word.

[Andalusian girls]

sadly there is no known cure for the psychological disfigurement known as being Canadian

[archibaldcrane]

Probably should just not let anyone buy guns.

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[NynJa]

Coming from the guy who pridefully admits and gloats how they’ve taken every drug known to man in order to cope with being such a shitty person, ill take that as a compliment.

[Kalmado]

I don't believe the background check system for guns is the same as the one that occurs for employment, but you could firewall information about people who were "involuntarily committed" from the latter if you wanted.

Ah I see. Thanks for the reply. Just using me as an example, I don't answer on job apps I have anxiety because,adjusts tin foil hat, I think I won't even get an interview. It sort of worries me for future employment possibilities if my visits to the doctor for anxiety, PTSD, and alcoholism will affect anything.

[Andalusian girls]

Coming from the guy who pridefully admits and gloats how they’ve taken every drug known to man in order to cope with being such a shitty person, ill take that as a compliment.

[Yuri-G]

ag stop it with the god damn buffy gifs you're making me way too happy

[Andalusian girls]

[dasva]

sadly there is no known cure for the psychological disfigurement known as being Canadian

Indeed. Even revoking his citizenship wasn't enough apparently. Was actually a pretty decent dude for being half Canadian citizen and up until then had been on track to having the highest record GPA there. Unfortunately can never get run away from the shame that is Canada

[Boyiee]

David Katz (the Madden gunman) had been hospitalized SIX TIMES (twice were involuntary) for mental health issues and was taking anti-psychotic and anti-depression meds, but was able to legally buy two guns in Maryland.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/record...-mental-health

Well, not totally legal - he did violate the honor system lol.



Excellent system we have here.

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I didn't get a chance to read everyone's recent posts but I just traded in a shotgun for a different firearm this weekend in NJ which has fairly strict gun laws and multiple backgrounds checks. Your mentioning of the honor system so to speak made me want to comment because it is indeed exactly that and not everyone here may know much about the process.

The seller assumed I had the same address and info as last year when I made a purchase so he submitted the same background check in advance before I arrived, not being a handgun there was only one generic not even state police background check required.

The rest of the process is me filling out honesty check boxes.

Are you an alcoholic? Do you use/abuse narcotics? Committed spousal abuse? Any crimes or felony's? A citizen? Here legally? Do you have any mental issues? Etc.

Literally like 8 or so check boxes and as I was reading them like a good boy he straight up told me "the answer is no to everything" just to speed up the process. He placed said form in a pile with the invoice, didn't submit it somewhere or check it just signed it after I did, took payment and handed me the weapon without anything further.

Yes there was at least a background done and it wasn't a handgun so it was a lot simpler even for NJ, but it is literally just a series of are you a bad guy check boxes and payment to walk out with anything that wasn't a pistol - and that's in a strict state that most gun owners complain about said process.

If it was a handgun the process is different, there is an additional more costly background check, a waiting period, a purchasing permit ($10) required from my municipalities police department and a limit on how many I can buy within a 90 day period. NJ also just implemented a 10 round magazine limit which hopeful is repealed. It's quite bullshit. I don't mind having less rounds even though it sucks for the range but you can't be grandfathered in if you already own them. You can't possess, use, or even transport them so I can't even leave the house with them to throw them out or have them destroyed without it being a crime or felony lol. If I'm caught with them im fucked but I can't get rid of them cause if I'm caught getting rid of them properly I'm fucked lol.

[Vandalhart]

With what the system has in place for requirements/restrictions/checks, does any sort of oversight committee ever go back and check the people out again, and if they are in violation, confiscate their weaponry?

[kuronosan]

First hand experienced a suicidal episode from my wife when they upped her migraine medication big time. I came home and she was balling her eyes out saying she didn't want to live anymore and was going to take an entire bottle of naproxin. She's never acted like that ever in the almost 8 years we've been together. The next day we went to the doctor, told him what happened, and she's on a good dose and no problems since. So yes, I do believe that the side effect can occur.

About the gun purchases, yeah, should've never happened. But we know nothing will change and the world turns on.

It can, because it's all dose adjustment with mental meds.

[6souls]

Statement from Electronic Arts

[Salodin]

Wtf EA being stand up people during this tragedy?

Yo, someone check hell. I think it might have frozen over...

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[Mertron]

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[Mertron]

“download this dlc” doesn’t seem right but fuck it

[arus2001]

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[Athas]

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[NynJa]

Just to be sure, is the thoughts and prayers emote a player going on their knees doing , or is it the jerk off motion?

[archibaldcrane]

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-n...217912505.html

4 dead, including gunman, in Cincinnati bank shooting