Random Fail FWP Thread: You're here because you're sick of reading about Halo Top in the Win thread

[Kalmado]

1) No, I think systems are a great way to set yourself up for failure. The real key is adjust your lifestyle. Just forcing yourself to eat less is just going to piss you off and lead to a rebound. Taking some ideas from these systems can be beneficial but the reality is that one size does not fit all, especially with the human body.

2) My personal plan is this:

1600-1800 calories a day.

Big breakfast these days ~600 calories.

Small lunch ~400 calories

Big dinner ~700-800 calories.

I meal prep most weeks. Especially for lunch. For me it's the easiest way to just say fuck it and order a sandwich.

The problem I run into is staying consistent. You can fuck up a little bit here and there but being consistent is the most important part.

3) Calorie intake is 100% of it unless you have a medical issue like PCOS or thyroid problems.

For men, it's much simpler too. Just get your BMR (Basel metabolic rate) and eat less than that. Any exercise is a bonus.

4) It sucks. Don't ever convince yourself that it's going to be easy or fun. You'll find hacks and ways to improve the situation but the reality is that once you've EVER BEEN FAT your body WANTS to be fat FOREVER. This will never stop or go away. Ever.

Thank you for the well written replies. I want to start meal planning as well. My wife is finally fed up too. Her problem is she finds eating for sustenance terrible because food is such a big part of life for her and friends/family. For me it's for sure cravings. I love sandwiches and doritos, but the latter is easy to stay away from.

For a menu I know I want canned tuna, veggie omelet, and chicken/pork dishes without rice or 1/2 a fist of rice. I can do those items weekly and not get bored or break from it. I also have to get my wife away from western ribs and pork steak. I sous vide pork tenderloin and it was incredible. Of course sous vide chicken is great too. Ya'll ever done frozen tilapia sous vide? Fucking money.

[BaneTheBrawler]

the reality is that one size does not fit all, especially with the human body.

fucking preach

[Zetanio]

It's also a lot worse for chicks. Their bodies are fucking nightmares.

Anyway, just start cooking a lot of vegetables. Like a LOT. Grill all your veggies up and learn how to kill recipes like vegetable curries and shit. I grill so many scallions, spring onions, asparagus, and peppers. It's insane.

[Tokitoki]

If you can find the time to do meal prep ahead of time you'll be in much better shape. I love sweets, which is my main downfall, but if I have my breakfast/lunch planned for the day I know I don't have the temptation to get something sweet while I'm out. I've cut out all soda from my diet, drinking lemonade or iced tea if I want something other than water. Personally, I feel it's easier for me to eat the same thing for several days if it's a higher quality as well. Going with organic or at least antibiotic/hormone free chicken as opposed to Perdue because the texture is normally better.

If I really need sweets, I try to go for fruit. Honestly, that's the hardest part for me. Especially in the summer, we have an amazing ice cream place 10 mins from us that changes up flavors every week and has special shakes. It's tough, and we end up going there at least once a week, but I've still managed to lose some weight and we kept away this week.

[Zetanio]

If you can find the time to do meal prep ahead of time you'll be in much better shape. I love sweets, which is my main downfall, but if I have my breakfast/lunch planned for the day I know I don't have the temptation to get something sweet while I'm out. I've cut out all soda from my diet, drinking lemonade or iced tea if I want something other than water. Personally, I feel it's easier for me to eat the same thing for several days if it's a higher quality as well. Going with organic or at least antibiotic/hormone free chicken as opposed to Perdue because the texture is normally better.

If I really need sweets, I try to go for fruit. Honestly, that's the hardest part for me. Especially in the summer, we have an amazing ice cream place 10 mins from us that changes up flavors every week and has special shakes. It's tough, and we end up going there at least once a week, but I've still managed to lose some weight and we kept away this week.

Dude, make your own popsicles.

Also, just eat delicious strawberries all summer. They are so good.

[Tokitoki]

We're going to have more of our own fruit and vegetables next year. We've got 72 strawberry plants, 3 different kinds, and 12 raspberry plants, 2 different kinds, that we started in the spring. They'll fruit twice a year starting this fall I believe. They'll really start to shoot and spread after that first fruit. Our raspberry bush in the BX was enormous.

Right now, though, I've been snacking on a couple chocolate chips with plain almonds after dinner to help the sweets cravings.

[Zetanio]

bruh you playin Stardew Valley over there.

[Tokitoki]

My wife has a giant garden planned out, but it was too much to take on while I was trying to get the kitchen together. I have to get fence posts and fencing installed, as well as some drainage cause the area she wants to use beside the garage is low.

The ice cream place had blueberry and strawberry soft serve as their special two weekends ago. It was awesome.

[Kalmado]

I fucking love curry. Never even had it until I met my wife, whom has opened my eyes to a lot of food and tastes that I never knew existed. Veggie curry would be fine. I love peppers, onion, asparagus, broccoli, and even brussel sprouts occasionally. What it be bad to throw in water chestnuts? I'm assuming the baby corn is a no go.

In my mid 20's I made almost the same thing every day. A bowl of chex or shredded wheat for breakfast. PB&J or a deli sandwich with baby carrots for lunch. Low sodium crackers for a snack. And for dinner either steak/chicken/fish with a veggie and maybe boxed mash potato or augratin potatoes. I would run in the morning for a short period three days a week but my job back then was physical labor. I stayed around 160 or so the entire time. Yeah it was probably my age and what not but I know my calorie intake was way lower back then.

If I could even get back to 215 I'd be thrilled right now. When I get home tonight I'm doing research on other simple meals to make a solid plan.

[Kalmado]

My wife has a giant garden planned out, but it was too much to take on while I was trying to get the kitchen together. I have to get fence posts and fencing installed, as well as some drainage cause the area she wants to use beside the garage is low.

The ice cream place had blueberry and strawberry soft serve as their special two weekends ago. It was awesome.

That's really awesome. My wife wanted to really overhaul our tiny backyard this summer, but plans changed because she's planning on returning to school in August. So right now she's working like crazy because she had some wants on her to get list and also we finally bought me a winter beater so I no longer have to drive my stupid Mustang in the winter. Next year I think we may try to pour a cement patio directly behind our house and till the majority of the remainder of yard to plant.

[Zetanio]

baby corn is fine. Just count the calories out. It's so much easier than you think. It's just daunting because it looks hard.

Just make sure you get the right curry. Try to avoid using cream at all, light coconut milk works pretty well. You'll figure it out.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/chana-masala

Also, start eating some tofu in place of meat. It's a small percentage of the calories and can be fucking packed with flavor. Again, these are things that I do but they may not work for you.

I make giant bowls of vegetable and tofu "ramen" using zucchini noodles and other ridiculous shit. It sounds crunchy and retard but if you don't suck cocks at cooking you can make that shit baller. For 700 calories I can have a monster goddamn bowl of delicious veggies and tofu instead of 5oz of normal meat protein and two small sides.

I also fucking hate chicken breast so there's that.

[Kalmado]

I really like tofu. I think it's something people may shy away from because it's different. My mother taught me how to make tofu spaghetti using rice noodle and fresh sauce. Very fulfilling. We use light coconut milk when making things that require it like kaldereta.

Some meals I'll have to figure some hacks for would be adobo, pacit, arroz caldo, tinola, and maybe eggrolls. Not sure how to make an eggroll healthy....

What's the opinion of carrots?

[dasva]

Honestly you can eat pretty much anything and still lose/gain. It's all about dieting smarter not harder. I've done 3-4 lbs a weak eating In N Out 3-4 times a week lol. While I've seen others beat themselves to death only eating veggies not lose a thing. Calculated BMR is basically just a guideline you gunna have to figure out what you need to maintain/lose a bit from trial. Even then as you lose or you get more efficient at exercises you been doing it will change. Another thing to keep somewhat in mind is the volume of food and macronutrient profiles. These can have quite large impacts on the calories required to digest those calories. This is part of why a lot of people recommend more protein since on top of being very satiating they also burn a fair amount of calories digesting (plus a lot of people eat way less protein then they think).

Once you realize and keep track of how much you actually need the only hard part is actually doing it. For me it's pretty easy... I don't really get hungry much and don't keep snacks around so staying in my plans is pretty easy. Some find intermittent fasting helps a bit while others can't help always be snacking so might need smaller portions. Either way trying to keep your meal times usually similar day to day. Simple carbs or even just high carb diets should be avoided since well not healthy but also doesn't satisfy hunger cravings nearly as well for similar amount of calories. Also don't believe all those fitness trackers that tell you you can eat x more calories because of the exercise you did.

Really though the best thing you can do is cooking for yourself. So much for being able to get the exact calories and macros you want day to day.

[Tokitoki]

I like raw carrots, or boiled carrots with salt & pepper.

I also like carrots cooked down with some water in a pan and add honey at the end to coat them.

[Kalmado]

I like raw carrots, or boiled carrots with salt & pepper.

I also like carrots cooked down with some water in a pan and add honey at the end to coat them.

I like raw as a snack. We put carrots in almost anything we can for hot stuff too. Mainly curry, kaldereta, and szechuan dishes.

For work snacks I've been keeping almonds or cashews around too. Every now and then I'll do a swipe of peanut butter. My main problem is carbs x100000. If I don't eat something carb related I feel like I'm starving.

[Zetanio]

I don't know why we're polling foods. All foods are terrific. Just google the calories and go to town.

Good thoughts on the protein/veggie mix but honestly to start off most people will want to eat volumetrically to get themselves comfortable with less caloric intake.

Also, don't drink juice. Juice is the devil.

Drink water, 80+oz a day. Nothing but delicious delicious water.

[Kalmado]

I don't do any juice. I do Mio when I want some flavor. Could never get a definite on if it's bad or good. I'm pretty excited to create a menu. I think it's going to be a fun development.

[dasva]

What's the opinion of carrots?

I'm a weirdo that will only eat them raw.

[dasva]

Also, don't drink juice. Juice is the devil.

Drink water, 80+oz a day. Nothing but delicious delicious water.

Fuck my ex started juicing at one point to lose weight... right after she had been diagnosed as pre diabetic. I had some words with her

I don't do any juice. I do Mio when I want some flavor. Could never get a definite on if it's bad or good. I'm pretty excited to create a menu. I think it's going to be a fun development.

Article sweeteners have mixed results but generally considered not great. But certainly better than not drinking enough water for the day or loading up on sugar and a million times better than HFCS. So best in moderation if needed to help increase water intake

[Kalmado]

Yeah I put Mio in my 30oz tumbler (loaded with ice) maybe twice a day while at work. I really like just plain water as long as it's ice cold. I drink usually 2-3 10oz black coffee a day. And still working on cutting alcohol...