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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    picked up Celeste. summary so far:

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    FUCK THIS GAME
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    I LOVE THIS GAME



    about to hit 1000 deaths and I'm on chapter 4, this game is epic lol
    Have you tried any of the B-side levels? I completed the first one last night, ended with nearly 400 deaths >.>;

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    hey I completed my first shmup yesterday - Gradius 3, a twenty-seven-year old arcade port with severe slowdown automatic and innate bullet time

    yes I'm playing 30 y/o games cause I'm a special kind of loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    I mean, that was true about the game when it was released. So yeah, it's a title you will either enjoy or not for what it is. Doesn't matter how old it is now
    Disagree but I cant elaborate without spoilering the game even though...

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    the journey and ending was great at the time when you thought this series was gonna lead into Ico (cause of that ending) which would lead into a bona fide new series from devs with a cool and impressive artistic direction. Then we waited how long for the actual sequel to Ico? I dont even remember seeing an Ico remaster (just checked and there still isnt?), and then they took as long as they did for that bird game that bombed. Gameplay is great of course...for a ps2 game where all you do is puzzle solve a boss fight to get to a point where you can hold onto some fur and stab it to death. Is it a bad game? No, but the thing is old, the series is as good as dead since his son will be in his teens by the time the next game comes around if it even ever does, and the time he spends buying and playing this game can be spent on better value games.


    Apparently walmart.com has Horizon on sale for $10 today. That is a better value for his time and money any day of the year.

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    Should have been more specific, because what I was referring to was the game itself, not its relations with the entire series. Because for me where the rest of the series stands doesn't really matter and I don't see why it should stop anyone from playing this game. And the main reason for me to play this is for it's atmosphere, sights etc. Would I buy it over Horizon or any of the above? Nope, but I can't agree that the game doesn't deserve to be played at all.

    As for Ico, I actually thought they did it too, just saw there was only the PS3 version, so yeah, colour me surprised too.

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    Honestly my gripe is SoC leaves you wanting more, but then the game has near zero more to offer you post game (and its not a long game), and the series took a nose dive in the planning stages for the 3rd game in their series. The prospects for getting out of this situation is grim whereas other games are new, shiny, and doing great right now as an IP.

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    scorching

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
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    the journey and ending was great at the time when you thought this series was gonna lead into Ico (cause of that ending) which would lead into a bona fide new series from devs with a cool and impressive artistic direction. Then we waited how long for the actual sequel to Ico? I dont even remember seeing an Ico remaster (just checked and there still isnt?), and then they took as long as they did for that bird game that bombed. Gameplay is great of course...for a ps2 game where all you do is puzzle solve a boss fight to get to a point where you can hold onto some fur and stab it to death. Is it a bad game? No, but the thing is old, the series is as good as dead since his son will be in his teens by the time the next game comes around if it even ever does, and the time he spends buying and playing this game can be spent on better value games.
    I've never seen a more confused stance about a videogame. "It's an old PS2 game where you do nothing but these 2 things and there's no plot and no character development but it's not a bad game."

    SoTC is a unique and powerful experience that you'll ever love or hate, but you definitely have to try. This utterly confusing stance on the game should be ignored, I'm not really sure what he's trying to say other than Team Ico fucked him.

    I hope your kid doesn't have interest in any other old games lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    I've never seen a more confused stance about a videogame. "It's an old PS2 game where you do nothing but these 2 things and there's no plot and no character development but it's not a bad game."

    SoTC is a unique and powerful experience that you'll ever love or hate, but you definitely have to try. This utterly confusing stance on the game should be ignored, I'm not really sure what he's trying to say other than Team Ico fucked him.

    I hope your kid doesn't have interest in any other old games lol
    There is nothing confusing about an exceedingly simple combat and platforming system, done well, leaving you wanting when there is nothing to do outside of almost two dozen bosses and zero additional content outside of fighting those same bosses with a slightly different weapon. Same fights. Same weaknesses. Same strategies. Is the game more than the sum of its parts? Sure. But it's a simple simple game, and his time and money can go further, elsewhere. Will he like it? Sure. Will he give it a second thought ever again after beating it? Probably not because they take a decade to release mediocre sequels.

    Other games on his list will take him further. Yall seem to forget this isnt about SoC being a good game, its SoC being worth the time and money over the other options he had. Lrn2red

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    imagine judging a game by its 'sequels' and potential as an IP rather than as the singular experience it is. I can't even with the 'you'll never think about the game again because its sequels take too long to release' when SotC has one of the most memorable climaxes of anything I've ever played and most things I've watched or read.

    MCU has ruined critical discernment

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    franchise or bust boysss get that gay stand alone shit out of my face

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    Imagine beating SoC, seeing that ending, and going where the fuck is my Ico remaster? Or playing both and going "well they must have released at least 2 stellar games by now" and then you search google...

    He put up a list and asked. I think I gave him good reasons to skip over SoC in favor of others on that list. Now if he asked should I ever play it? Fuck yeah. Wait for a weekend when your kid is at grandma's and knock that shit out. Then come back and tell salo thanks for the recommendation and for pushing me to go for another title over this one when I could only pick a couple for christmas.

    Or when it's on sale for 10 bucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    There is nothing confusing about an exceedingly simple combat and platforming system, done well, leaving you wanting when there is nothing to do outside of almost two dozen bosses and zero additional content outside of fighting those same bosses with a slightly different weapon. Same fights. Same weaknesses. Same strategies. Is the game more than the sum of its parts? Sure. But it's a simple simple game, and his time and money can go further, elsewhere. Will he like it? Sure. Will he give it a second thought ever again after beating it? Probably not because they take a decade to release mediocre sequels.
    Wow.

    I mean I disagree with literally everything in this post but I appreciate the fact it exists. Take your recommendations from whoever you like but... lol

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    Oh wow you think SotC was a bad game and should never be played? Please elaborate, or stop skimming my posts.

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    if only a game's worth was in any way influenced by the timeliness or lack thereof of its sequel's release

    seemingly inspired by Gred, do kindly take this opportunity to post all the righteous posts

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    picked up Dead Cells the other day. there are no words for how much I love this game


    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    Have you tried any of the B-side levels? I completed the first one last night, ended with nearly 400 deaths >.>;
    yeah I tried the first b-side, it was... interesting. I couldn't get past the second or third screen; my wall-jumping tech apparently isn't good enough, I always run out of stamina


    400 sounds fair actually good job lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    if only a game's worth was in any way influenced by the timeliness or lack thereof of its sequel's release

    seemingly inspired by Gred, do kindly take this opportunity to post all the righteous posts
    ITT: People who would pick up SotC for their brand new ps4 over GoW, Horizon, or Spiderman.

    But yall do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    picked up Dead Cells the other day. there are no words for how much I love this game
    Make sure you get parrying down.

    If the patch notes for the next update stay the same it's gonna be way more vital then it currently is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    ITT: People who would pick up SotC for their brand new ps4 over GoW, Horizon, or Spiderman.

    But yall do you.

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    no one said that. in fact the only person that compared SotC with the other games explicitly said they wouldn't recommend it over Horizon or any of the above. you got push back for your stupid reasoning and your stupid claim that 'you're not missing anything by not playing SotC', you stupid stupid man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Make sure you get parrying down.

    If the patch notes for the next update stay the same it's gonna be way more vital then it currently is.


    nooooooooooooo I don't want to lol


    I probably should though. can't hurt to dedicate a couple runs to parry practice; I'm gonna die eventually anyway and the early levels are becoming a breeze. oddly enough I'm beginning to love the sewer (hated it so much at first)


    edit: hahaha got my first cursed chest, that's hilarious. I was trying to figure out how the devs could possibly create something truly foreboding in a game that already promises death around every single corner; never in a million years would I have come up with that idea. brilliant

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