FF:BE - Let Them Eat Mogcake

[Ziero]

I haven't been able to load the game in 2 days, ever since the new update. I Was losing interest in the game as a whole but this may finally be the thing that gets me to drop it entirely. Pretty easy to stop playing a game when you literally can't play it.

[theshun]

10+1 ticket.
10+1 pull.
5+ ticket.
4* ticket.
250 pull.
2 Tickets.

Reberta(dupe), Olive(new), illusionist Nichol, 2 Lids.

Pretty disappointed. But at least I got one 4*... Olive is great but I have Fire Veritas... and Reberta is cool but she’s a dupe and I already own two Orlands...

Start at 1:45.

[Starby]

Daily was my fifth pirate Jake. I need a damn Nichole!

[-Zer0-]

Today's ticket got me Jake. Woot.

[Starby]

After my sixth! Jake, I decided to do a rage 5k pull. Got Delita(sweet tm and nice breaks for raids huzzah!) and finally a Nichole. Thank goodness

[Deathbringer]

Decided to blow-up 3 tickets for 1 P.Jake after thinking dat TM
1st gold-> Bran
2nd-> B.Cat Lid
3rd-> 4-> 5* remix:

Spoiler: show

WELP

[Byrthnoth]

I got a Gilg and that's great

[Kamikazi321]

Blew 15k lapis, 30 tix, and a couple of 4* tix. Ended up with 2 Ace dupe, 2 GL Sakura, Trance Terra, 2 pirate Jake and a bunch of troll gold before my last tix got me iNichol that I was aiming for. I have yet to tm farm for any MAG chars :/

[Prothescar]

[Malithar]

Blew 15k lapis, 30 tix, and a couple of 4* tix. Ended up with 2 Ace dupe, 2 GL Sakura, Trance Terra

5 5*s in 65ish pulls, crazy.

[Malithar]

JP Fan Festa is going on. Lots of moonspeak and such in JP's fan festa. One thing that's come out is they're moving onward with 7* upgrades. Only 5* base units will have this upgrade. Pic below with various unit's 7* sprites if interested. Apparently Lightning is one of the first. There's something about TMR abilities, though idk if that's a change to her TMR or something that has to do with her 7*. She's apparently getting "true dual wield."

Spoiler: show

Some further bonuses that 7* units will receive:

Max lvl 120
Pot limit increased
LB up to 30
New abilities
+1 materia
Super TM

There's some info about Super TM that I don't understand. One of the slides almost makes it look like you need two of the 5* unit to enhance each other or something? idk. Some stipulations to Super TMs:

Super TM Max per unit is 50%
Rate of Super TM Gain is the same as normal (No Boost)
You cannot use TMogs for Super TM
You cannot raise Super TM via Choco Expedition (a JP event similar to our own expeditions, though their units can gain TMR% from it)

Super TMR Slides:

Spoiler: show

And yeah, reddit to the rescue. So apparently, to 7* a unit, you need 2x of that unit maxed at 6*. Enhance em, then you've got your 7*. To unlock the Super TMR, you have to enhance 2x 7*s of that unit that are capped at 50% Super TMR. To simplify that, you need a total of 6 of the same base 5* unit. This suddenly sounds like whale territory only...

[Byrthnoth]

Four 5*s?

Four might as well be six for me, though. Seems weird to have such a severe gate, but I guess JPs have had a 3% rainbow rate for quite a while now so maybe it is less daunting for them than it would be for us.

[Malithar]

I don't fully get it since I can't read the text, but reddit seems to be reporting that you have to enhance a dupe 7* into the unit to increase Super TMR by 50%, thus the 7* you're using plus two more 7*s.

Best quote I can find that explains it is-

It's explained in the images. Each 7-star is worth 50% Trust and is the only way you can raise it. So if you want to get a Super TMR for one 7-star, you need 2 other 7-stars of the same name. That becomes 6 rainbows of that type. There's a special system in place where you use a dupe and convert it into the material needed to level up a unit to 7-star.

You don't lose the chance at the TMR as they give you a special moogle that you can use to gain the TMR separate from the unit when you convert it. That's the only silver lining.

I don't know if they're wrong or if the reported info from the slides is wrong, but lots reporting 6x 5* base dupes required, but could definitely be a case of bad info that's spread. The slides were reported to mention TMR growth and such, which would imply grinding, and not simply throwing dupe units into the pot. The quote above makes it sound more like you're not losing the 7*s, you're just using the moogle from them that is a byproduct of producing a 7*, but I really don't know or understand. Hopefully a more full translation will come out today so that the real info can be known.

[Byrthnoth]

Wow though, lol. I can't imagine ever getting 6 of a 5* unit. Getting even 2 of the same unit would feel like terribly bad luck right now

[Malithar]

Yeah, same. Maybe it's like you said, the 3% change has been around for a good little while over there, maybe it sounds overkill to us, but to some over there they have multiple dupes already and they haven't really whaled. Hell, there's some here who randomly get strange amounts of dupes. Didn't someone have 4 Trance Terras? Didn't you end up with 3x OKs? I lose track too easily. Dupes definitely feel like bad luck right now, but I suppose we'll be looking at them differently now, although without knowing what's being changed/added to these units, there's no easy way to tell what's to be happy about.

Sticker shock is definitely massive on this though.

Another explanation of the 7* and Super TMR process. The only hanging point for me is the mention of growth rate and such reported from the slide. It sounds like Super TMR just can't be grinded period, it can only be increased with dupes. I also don't get the note about the special moogle. Maybe that's just for the regular TMR, so you can convert that progress over to another unit. If so, I wonder what happens with a 100% TMR unit.

Gist of it:

You need to convert a Max Level 6★ Unit into that unit's Awakening Crystal.
You use that Awakening Crystal to evo another copy to 7★.
If you want to get that unit's Super Trust Mastery...
You will then need to fuse two 7★ of that unit into it.
(Each worth 50%, each technically worth 2x base 5 Stars)
I.E. 7★ with Super TMR = 6x of the same unit base 5★

Note: You will also get a "Special Moogle" that keeps the unit's TMR progression.

Looks like 7* will be the norm going forward as well. Rinoa and Squall are 5-7* units out of the gate, with Zell being 4-6*. Makes me wonder who the troll 3* will be. Hell, with the 7* shit, maybe 3*s will go to friend points or some other pool or something. I can only imagine the whaling though; want a party of 5x 7* Squall? Pull 10 of him. Want his Super TMR too on each? Pull 30 of him. All on a split 5* banner. lol

[Byrthnoth]

I have 3 OKs, 2 Fryevias, and 2 Wilhelms right now, but no other dupes. Even if they roll this out in a year, I'd feel lucky to have a balanced team of 5 7*s

[Malithar]

That's another aspect to all of this as well. In some instances, dupes aren't a bad thing at all, like chainers. Hypothetically, if you ended up with 6 OKs by time this hits. what would you be better off with for trials and such, 3x 7* OKs chaining faces off, or throwing it all away for one STMR OK? Sure, they wouldn't be usable during the 10 man trials, but you'd rock out on anything else. The power scaling is rough to even think about. STMRs will have to be monstrous to make such an investment worthwhile, I'd think.

Apparently Lightning's TMR will be changed to grant her (or anybody? idk):
+80% ATK
True Dual Wield
Damage up on Crushing Blow

Her STMR is apparently Omega Weapon, whatever that may end up providing.

[Alkar]

I don't know about this. If the endgame shifts to 7* characters many will be completely locked out unless we start getting tons of dupes, especially if the new TMRs are all part of their kit. Maybe there's another rainbow increase coming?

Edit: save up as many Y'shtola dupes as you can in our next XIV GL Raid btw lol.

[Dook]

Rage 11 pull x2 and my 5* ticket: Prishe and a dupe Zargybargy, two PJake and Three iNichol.
Mayd about that Prishe, 5* Mages ellude me like no other. Is she worth the time or is she strictly TMR? Also, Any reason for the three iNichol or just TmR fodders?

[DFJS]

Having bad connection issues right now. Macro not running properly. Kind of annoying since I'm close to getting onion sword. Think 2 OK can take down elt dark espers? Mines got about 700ish attack and if I use a friend's with about 900.