FF:BE - Let Them Eat Mogcake

[Malithar]

Anyone else think it's really scummy that they are doing the 5 shards to get kitty arianna after 5 10+1 pulls? It seems really fucked up to me imo.

Edit: It probably seems more fucked up than usual due to all the lootbox drama going on lately but I genuinely think it's getting worse and some companies are trying to get as much as they can out of whales before it becomes regulated.

No, not at all. Call it a mercy system, call it a guaranteed pull, whatever, it gives you something you can count on for what you're putting in. How is that fucked up? How that can be considered scummy/scammy is beyond me. The only argument I get is "why this unit?", specially since the system sounds like it's setup for this specific unit rather than something that will be sticking around for other banners. There's a lot of people up in arms about the unit when they don't even know what she's capable of yet. I almost hope she's OP as hell so reddit burst into flames again.

As others mentioned, JP has a step-up system where you get additional/guaranteed rewards from different steps of 10+1s. IIRC, you get something extra on the first, like a 10% TM Moogle, a guaranteed banner 4* on the second, a guaranteed 5* pull on the third, something that I forget on the fourth, maybe some EX tickets or something, and a guaranteed on banner 5* on the 5th. The reward tiers are prolly off, but that gives you an idea of what you can expect there.

Systems like this are the exact opposite of scummy. The loot box drama is entirely blown out of proportion IMO. It's where the money is and for better or worse, game companies are a for profit business. That said, I feel the complaints on P2W in full priced games.

[Alkar]

No, not at all. Call it a mercy system, call it a guaranteed pull, whatever, it gives you something you can count on for what you're putting in. How is that fucked up? How that can be considered scummy/scammy is beyond me. The only argument I get is "why this unit?", specially since the system sounds like it's setup for this specific unit rather than something that will be sticking around for other banners. There's a lot of people up in arms about the unit when they don't even know what she's capable of yet. I almost hope she's OP as hell so reddit burst into flames again.

As others mentioned, JP has a step-up system where you get additional/guaranteed rewards from different steps of 10+1s. IIRC, you get something extra on the first, like a 10% TM Moogle, a guaranteed banner 4* on the second, a guaranteed 5* pull on the third, something that I forget on the fourth, maybe some EX tickets or something, and a guaranteed on banner 5* on the 5th. The reward tiers are prolly off, but that gives you an idea of what you can expect there.

Systems like this are the exact opposite of scummy. The loot box drama is entirely blown out of proportion IMO. It's where the money is and for better or worse, game companies are a for profit business. That said, I feel the complaints on P2W in full priced games.

Step ups in JP are different every time they show up but generally it's: Step 1: 10% Moogle, Step 2: 1.5 increase in rainbow rate, Step 3: guaranteed 5*, Step 4: guaranteed featured 4*+ 2x rainbow rate, Step 5: guaranteed featured 5* and 3x rainbow rate. The FFVIII banner had no rainbow increase though iirc, don't remember what they added in Step 2 instead.
The lootbox thing is something else and ,while I don't agree that it's blown out of proportion (see BF2), this is not the case nor the place for this discussion imo. FFBE is a f2p game and they do need to make a profit somehow, as long as it's fair and clear. But the BS has been called out before and this is not the case no matter how good/bad Kitty Ariana is. We've also never reached the depths of Mobius paywalls.

[Prothescar]

The loot box drama is entirely blown out of proportion IMO. It's where the money is and for better or worse, game companies are a for profit business. That said, I feel the complaints on P2W in full priced games.

Sorry dude but this is just disagreeable. They're designed to be an intentionally exploitative business practice. The only thing preventing devs from putting the items inside of lootboxes into a store where you can pick and choose what you want to buy instead of rolling the dice again and again and again until you get what you actually want is greed, and the knowledge that they can exploit basic psychological tendencies in other human beings. This really doesn't apply to games like BE which offer the entire game for free and their business model is built around the lottery system, but poor rates that are designed to make you spend hundreds of dollars on a single unit that will be replaced later is still exploitation.

[Karbuncle]

Loot Box drama is entirely in proportion. It preys on the same "Play the odds" logic gambling uses, except its unregulated due to loopholes in fake currency. Its psychological manipulation and greed bundled into an RNG box. Hell, RNG boxes are nothing new, you could consider games like Diablo 2 or Borderlands to be nothing but an entire game of lootboxes, every enemy you kill is an RNG loot-splosion. The concept is sound, and can be very thrilling. The problem comes when its reaching into your pockets for the roll of the dice.

You can enjoy loot boxes, theres no reason you shouldn't enjoy them. If you've ever loved games like D2 or Loot-grinder games the concept of Loot boxes is great. its the way its being handled. Manipulative, preying, tactics that actively sacrifice gameplay for more $$$ that these companies are pushing in sleezier and sleezier and sleezier and even SLEEZIER ways with every new generation of game thats got to stop, and why people are getting pissed. Most people can forgive it in mobile games though its still a huge problem that needs regulating, but I believe the brunt of the rage is when full priced Triple A games are becoming more scummy and sleezy than games like Candy Crush could imagine.

~I love FFBE so lets do that~

[Malithar]

~I love FFBE so lets do that~

Kicked in the bit about loot boxes at the end without much explaining, but like Alkar said, this really isn't the place.

Looking forward to the Arianna data mine tomorrow morning so we can know more about her. The Golbez fight is a GL timed exclusive too, hopefully we see some interesting mechanics and not just a silly high amount of requirements (such as RNG...) like the the Skeleton King had.

[theshun]

Predictions: Sport Ariana is gonna be an AoE Magic Tank and Kitty Ariana will be greater than Ramza+2 and Marie+2.

[Prothescar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvi..._and_the_ugly/

For anyone who may be on the fence about Ling.



Info's in on Ariana mk. 3 and mk. 4.

Tanky one is surprisingly ok. AoE 30% mitigation and stuff, could serve as a good tank for people without better options, especially since she's a free units.

Healer one is uh... I dunno why she's a 5*. Shit heals, her support is niche as hell (AoE water imbue is nice i guess?), honestly don't see using her very often. Even Luka has higher potency per turn heals.

[Alkar]

I see a lot of praise on reddit for the Kitty Ariana but I really don't see it... even with dualcasting abilities she really doesn't bring anything new to the table other than an extremely niche AoE water imbue ability. Our Ramzas are safe! XD

[Byrthnoth]

Kitty one is really competition for Zarg, not a healer

[Alkar]

I'd take Zarg over Kitty Ariana honestly. She can DC her abilities but I really don't see anything special there. He has an AoE 60% all stat buff+ some status immunity thrown in... she needs to waste DC on one turn to only buff stats. Sure you can mix in different turns but her heal is quite bad and won't be enough to perform well on its own. If you're keeping up buffs and healing you only have one turn to do something else because you need to refresh after that. She's a mediocre unit imo, surely not worth chasing with Eiko/Yuna/CG Fina coming very soon.

[Starby]

New story is short. Really short. It's 5 or 6 dungeons and a town. Script was decent, except that someone in editing forgot how to use spacebar half the time. There's a lot ofwords that just don'thave spaces for some reason. Back to TM farming until Golbez tomorrow and then TMs again. Hurray.

[Zealot]

Same, I leveled up and had a bunch of NRG thinking "great! I'll be able to get through the story!" With the 1/2 NRG campaign I didn't even get past my overflow.

[Alkar]

Yep, I got like 1500 lapis out of it lol. Good news is that Lapis rewards should double with the next story update if they follow JP... but they probably won't

[Karbuncle]

Yep, I got like 1500 lapis out of it lol. Good news is that Lapis rewards should double with the next story update if they follow JP... but they probably won't

Nah. Global players enjoy being hosed, didn’t ya know?

What’s the best place for Guard crysts atm? Gem chamber or one of the story event(if story which one)

[Deathbringer]

Nah. Global players enjoy being hosed, didn’t ya know?

What’s the best place for Guard crysts atm? Gem chamber or one of the story event(if story which one)

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvi...amber_of_gems/

Tl;dr: 2/4/6/8/10

[DFJS]

Story really was short. Had to lol at all that bad spell check dialogue. Is the gauntlet from mama chocobo worth Getting? I'm up to around 500ish star quartz. Keep seeing that better fat Chico items are on the way. Love new story events, back up around 7k lapis.



Thoughts on that arch fiend banner? The tickets not summons.

[Prothescar]

This ELT is going to be really annoying to farm if you haven't got some kitted out DDs






Super easy. Went in blind, shadow dragon killed Soleil (who was basically useless to me for this fight so effectively 4manned it) a couple times, dunno what caused it to target her. Dunno what else it does cause the dragon was dead in 3 turns. Golbez himself was a wimp but he does use Osmose so SPR buffs/MAG breaks help a lot. Quick Hit chains took off 25%~ of his HP (33%+ of the dragon's) per chain and Bahamut easily scored a killing blow at the end (had it on WoL). Must simpler than other recent GL exclusive fights.

edit: according to reddit killing the dragon before Golbez is a bad idea? I didn't really see why. Took me 2 or 3 turns after killing the dragon to finish off Golbez and he didn't really do anything to me.

[Starby]

After the dragon is dead, Golbez attacks randomly. One of his skills becomes the one that drops everyone to 10hp, followed by a ga nuke which will wipe you. That's how I lost the first time.

I won with

Orlandu
Rikku
Agrias
Soleil
Tilith

I wouldn't enter the fight without Rikku. Reraise won the fight for me. I didn't use atk or mag breaks, no idea if they even work. The enemies hit really weak regardless

[Alkar]

ELT wasn't that hard for me, it's just another shitty Raid though given the rewards. Oh well, at least it's only 1 week... Did we even get 100 Lapis this time? feels like they're trying to hold back lately.

[Ayn]

Alright, need to burn some Trust Moogles.

Thoughts? I've got Rikku's pouch, don't seem to need DC at the moment so Terra's TMR is out. Have 2x Genji gloves and 1x Dual Wield. So I dunno. Another Excal for Agrias maybe? Got a Cecil that's at like 30ish percent.