Final Fantasy Record Keeper MMXVII-2: The sequel thread we never asked for

[Ratatapa]

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[Khajit]

Getting way too many 1/11 relic pulls for my liking recently.

I have a slight problem.
Having recently pulled a whale whisker (mighty guard) and Moogle plushie (Kupo cure) it might be more in my long term interest to pick Fujin's relic with all the praise it apparently gets combined with the fact that I have several wind damage soul breaks.

Y'shtola:
Pro:
Mithra
At least it's some synergy in FFXIV realms
I have very few medica soul breaks so more variety helps (Yuna USB and vanille SSB. Iris doesn't count yet since I can't get Iris)
The soul break itself is damn good with it's mitigation and medica.
I have no clue when i'd be able to get an iris to use the alternative soul break.(FFXV)
Cons:
Kupo cure sounds almost exactly like it with the important damage mitigation part being exactly the same in the description.
That's a pretty big con if I can reasonably expect to attain Iris in a timely manner.

Fujin:
Pro:
Wind damage probably synergizes pretty well if I made a wind team since I seem to have an large amount of wind soul breaks like Luneth OSB, Zidane USB,Nine BSB,Emperor BSB,Fang SSB, and could unlock Cid(VII) for his SSB. Batz USB might sorta count but I feel like that would be stretching it.
That -magic and -resistance is apparently insane
VIII synergy.
Apparently very important for some upcoming event strats
I have very few blm soul breaks, so more variety in magical damage is always a plus
Con:
No Y'shtola
I'm probably a noob with an extremely stupid idea.

Any suggestions/tips on what I should grab from the tower draw?

[synistar]

You should be able to get a Soul of Hero during the Dissida event as well as an empty MC1 and MC2. Just RW an OSB to clear all the fights. Also Iris could reoccur next week with the Prompto event.

Iris BSB is comparable to Ysh but lacking 4* support for wrath spam. Still servicable since she can dive 5* dancer. Basically a better version of Lenna.

Fujin is a decent choice because on top of being a wind SB, it's also a good magic break that stacks (MAG/RES break) and a res break on C2. Also her chakram is +wind damage. Wrath access and if all else fails, spam Phantasm + Raging winds with a physical party since ninjas don't need super high magic.

Hard choice between the two since they fill a fair amount of needs. Fujin kinda gets the nod from me just barely since it sounds like you don't have Wall or Aetherial Pulse for Ysh.

And for a lot of content, I have a feeling you'll be running Rikku USB for RW so you don't need to pack pro/shellga on your team. I don't know your hastega situation so I'm only making assumptions since it's hard to slot in Strago if only for Pro/Shellga

[kuronosan]

Getting way too many 1/11 relic pulls for my liking recently.

I have a slight problem.
Having recently pulled a whale whisker (mighty guard) and Moogle plushie (Kupo cure) it might be more in my long term interest to pick Fujin's relic with all the praise it apparently gets combined with the fact that I have several wind damage soul breaks.

Y'shtola:
Pro:
Mithra
At least it's some synergy in FFXIV realms
I have very few medica soul breaks so more variety helps (Yuna USB and vanille SSB. Iris doesn't count yet since I can't get Iris)
The soul break itself is damn good with it's mitigation and medica.
I have no clue when i'd be able to get an iris to use the alternative soul break.(FFXV)
Cons:
Kupo cure sounds almost exactly like it with the important damage mitigation part being exactly the same in the description.
That's a pretty big con if I can reasonably expect to attain Iris in a timely manner.

Fujin:
Pro:
Wind damage probably synergizes pretty well if I made a wind team since I seem to have an large amount of wind soul breaks like Luneth OSB, Zidane USB,Nine BSB,Emperor BSB,Fang SSB, and could unlock Cid(VII) for his SSB. Batz USB might sorta count but I feel like that would be stretching it.
That -magic and -resistance is apparently insane
VIII synergy.
Apparently very important for some upcoming event strats
I have very few blm soul breaks, so more variety in magical damage is always a plus
Con:
No Y'shtola
I'm probably a noob with an extremely stupid idea.

Any suggestions/tips on what I should grab from the tower draw?

Without Wall Ysh is still a great healer, and Fujin really needs En-Wind and OSB to shine with her wind-game. If your wind-game is strong enough to where she doesn't need it, you don't need her.

[Kirin]

Is Iris not available in Hall of Records or is placed there with the XV event on the 15th?

Yshtola and Iris' commands are the same, so it comes down to trading medica potency on entry in Yshtola for Astra status blink on Iris.

I talked myself into nabbing Fujin on the selection, but I also have Yshtola fully dived. I will say since I got her BSB she has not left my party in 90% of content. Instant doublecast 7.5k heals are really nice. But thats also a product of really good FF8 synergy and my unlikely chance to pull on an 8 banner for a very long time.

Fujin opens up some nice strats and utility, a stong debuff ninja magic user and a rare wind element boost thrower to boot. But very little that is done with her cannot be done without her. I'd go Yshtola and then when you do have Iris available you have a healer option for literally every bit of content outside CM use.

[Khajit]

My apologies, I forgot to mention my hastega situation.
I do tend to use Rikku as a roaming warrior but I got Ramza's shout not too long ago to wean myself off of that in favor of misc OSB. This gives me two SB that I can use for hastega while making it so that if Strago is a decent character I can use his SB for pro/shell. Lately i've been having Yuna spam r5 ifrit (or r3 shiva/ramuh) when she doesn't have a heal to send to build up the gauge.
I'm not even lv 80 yet so Ramza opening up more RW when i'm impatient or decide to risk stamina to see if I can win one of the harder dungeons has been fairly helpful.
Iris and any other FFXV hero is NOT available via soul of a hero at this time. Synistar mentioned earlier that an event with her is next week so my intial concern of not knowing how long i would have to wait for Iris to become available is now invalid.

[Kirin]

I don't think Iris is available from the Prompto/Aranea event directly, but she may be placed in the Hall of Records along with (or close to) that event where you can get her.

Id say short term using Strago for Pro/Shell is fine, but he kind of falls off later on as many "Blue Mages" tend to stat wise without heavy investment. Having a strong Paladin character (Beatrix, Cecil, Agrias, etc) to pair with a whm can set you up with Pro and Shell between the two at the cost of more production offensively out of that Strago slot. Or even someone like Quistis (after dive) who can be your off pro/shell and supply breakdown support or magic damage.

[Alkar]

Iris BSB is in Prompto's banner so I'm pretty sure she will be in the event itself. We're due for maintenance next week though so she'll probably be added in the Hall anyway.

[Kirin]

So I can't do Apex Omega after spending most of all day yesterday.

No Zack or Terra, as that seems to cover the majority of speed strats here.

Been using Squall, Bartz (both LD) and Rinoa with Ice Chain, Edge for Last Stand and Ramza for shout.

It's doable if I get perfect Bartz quad cast procs. But just aggravating. Anything a little simpler for just the clear? Turtle healing?

[synistar]

I went with 2.5 heals in Ysh, Alphinaud with Ultra Cure, and Prishe with LS + Curaja and Last Stand/Regen/%heal SSB. Cid Raines full LD was most of my DPS. Double heals is probably needed if you don't have a speed kill party.

[Akiyama]

So I can't do Apex Omega after spending most of all day yesterday.

No Zack or Terra, as that seems to cover the majority of speed strats here.

Been using Squall, Bartz (both LD) and Rinoa with Ice Chain, Edge for Last Stand and Ramza for shout.

It's doable if I get perfect Bartz quad cast procs. But just aggravating. Anything a little simpler for just the clear? Turtle healing?

The main strat is you wanna push through his first phase as fast as possible, so usually Cloud USB RW is involved there. Once you get him out of Phase 1, you stop lock him for the rest of the fight. That seems to be the major key here.

I got Cloud's USB in my 1/11 Banner 3, but my clears were before I was lucky enough to get it, and then even after, I still RW'd it so it could go on two people. If you lack the speed strat tools, though, then try the double healer strat.

Granted if you did have Bartz with his USB and him fully dived and can double/triple proc his spellblades.. then you may be able to RW Cloud USB, sub in another DPS like Squall or something and try to go ham. It can be tough, but doable!

[Ratatapa]

Maintenance on October 12

[Alkar]

As expected, they had to load the translated Prompto event after all. Let's hope Meia is in there as well...

[kuronosan]

Eh just give me another crack at Lightning USB.

[Kirin]

The main strat is you wanna push through his first phase as fast as possible, so usually Cloud USB RW is involved there. Once you get him out of Phase 1, you stop lock him for the rest of the fight. That seems to be the major key here.

I got Cloud's USB in my 1/11 Banner 3, but my clears were before I was lucky enough to get it, and then even after, I still RW'd it so it could go on two people. If you lack the speed strat tools, though, then try the double healer strat.

Granted if you did have Bartz with his USB and him fully dived and can double/triple proc his spellblades.. then you may be able to RW Cloud USB, sub in another DPS like Squall or something and try to go ham. It can be tough, but doable!

Yeah, I should have mentioned my RW is Cloud USB. For Bartz and Squall.

Bartz gets 24kx2 with SSS after Shout is up. Squall does 22k per Blizzaga Strike. My issue, if everything goes well, is getting hit with that 2nd Atomic Ray at ~18 seconds that obliterates me. If I can live past that, Omega is at about 20% health left, Bartz has 1 more use of SSS before UCS runs out, and Squall is able to get his USB off.

Maybe I'll try to snake a Bismark kill early just so I have it to use on Atomic Ray. Enkidu isn't doing me a lot of good if things go well.

[hyoton]

is rinoa on stoplock? do you have vessel or a buff that can be run on a second stoplock with good mnd?

[Kirin]

is rinoa on stoplock? do you have vessel or a buff that can be run on a second stoplock with good mnd?

She is now running Stop and Boost to give Bartz some +atk before Shout goes off. I also geared her for mind, and stop lasts about 1.5 seconds. She is there for her Ice Chain for Bartz and Squall damage.

Edge is there for the Haste + LS.

If I trade out the slots for another stop user, it doesnt solve my issue of Bartz only having Cloud USB active until the 20 second mark. Even if I give him the 2nd use and bring a LS battery, He would have to use the RW again and resume his damage which just seems like an extended use of time for me to be blasted into death.

If I ditch Edge, swap the dr mog to Ramza for initial Shout+Haste, that would give me time to Wrath + Entrust Squall for a USB use I think. His BSB2 would need a few turns of buildup and I don't know if I can get to that point.

[hyoton]

She is now running Stop and Boost to give Bartz some +atk before Shout goes off. I also geared her for mind, and stop lasts about 1.5 seconds. She is there for her Ice Chain for Bartz and Squall damage.

Edge is there for the Haste + LS.

If I trade out the slots for another stop user, it doesnt solve my issue of Bartz only having Cloud USB active until the 20 second mark. Even if I give him the 2nd use and bring a LS battery, He would have to use the RW again and resume his damage which just seems like an extended use of time for me to be blasted into death.

If I ditch Edge, swap the dr mog to Ramza for initial Shout+Haste, that would give me time to Wrath + Entrust Squall for a USB use I think. His BSB2 would need a few turns of buildup and I don't know if I can get to that point.

I'm assuming the atomic rays is during stop phase? 1.5 seconds isn't enough, I had it on ysh and it lasted between each cast, but I think I had TG might on whereas you'll need dr. mogs for ice chain.
I have to think that bsb2 would be better than blizzaga strike or usb even if it takes longer to build. Blizzaga strike's really outdated by now.

[Pirian]

Debating whether to do the gem pull and I have a couple questions:

1. Would Bartz's with LD + BSB2 (the enWater one) + USB be able to carry me through Liquid Flame? I have no other water SSB/BSB/USB.

2. Is there a lightning or ice BSB in the gem pull select that would be able to carry me through magicite?

Lightning (element, not character) I only have Ashe's OSB, Kaine BSB, and Raijin BSB, and it's really not cutting it. As for ice, I have Serah's enIce BSB, Squall OSB + USB, but that's it. I have no ice weapon nor any source of enIce for Squall to take advantage of his OSB, and Serah's BSB is just too weak to carry me (OK+Mog+faith for buffs). I was thinking about LD'ing Squall and trying to simply use his USB with SSS (3/5) + Blizzaga Strike, but I hear nothing good about his USB and I don't really want to waste the spheres, since his USB doesn't even give enIce for me to take advantage of his OSB if the former strategy doesn't work.

[IceSylph]

Debating whether to do the gem pull and I have a couple questions:

1. Would Bartz's with LD + BSB2 (the enWater one) + USB be able to carry me through Liquid Flame? I have no other water SSB/BSB/USB.

2. Is there a lightning or ice BSB in the gem pull select that would be able to carry me through magicite?

Lightning (element, not character) I only have Ashe's OSB, Kaine BSB, and Raijin BSB, and it's really not cutting it. As for ice, I have Serah's enIce BSB, Squall OSB + USB, but that's it. I have no ice weapon nor any source of enIce for Squall to take advantage of his OSB, and Serah's BSB is just too weak to carry me (OK+Mog+faith for buffs). I was thinking about LD'ing Squall and trying to simply use his USB with SSS (3/5) + Blizzaga Strike, but I hear nothing good about his USB and I don't really want to waste the spheres, since his USB doesn't even give enIce for me to take advantage of his OSB if the former strategy doesn't work.

Yes, Bartz with USB+LD alone will carry you through Hydra, Flame and Sealion.