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  1. #661
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    So it looks like the JP FF6 event gives Edgar a Poison element in his BSB and USB, as well as Fire and Thunder affiliation.

    If im reading it correctly, his USB is 10 ranged Posion/Fire/Lightning ranged hits, Machinist damage boost, and EX mode Machinist; 30% atk boost, fastcast machinist abilities, and chase poison/fire/lightning machinist ability use with a 3x ST hit of poison/fire/lightning (depending on trigger) Machinist damage with a chance to imperil that element.

    His BSB is another Poison/Fire/Lightning entry but the commands only imperil Fire/Lightning.

    Does Machinist have another poison ability besides Bio Grenade in JP?

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    Per the reddit ffrk wiki (not sure when it gets updated) there isn't even any upcoming poison abilities, much less poison machinist abilities!

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    Bio Grenade is the only one and Edgar doesn't have access to any other poison related ability lol. Funny thing is they're adding two new abilities with this event and it's Thief (fire skill with damage boost depending on HP) and Knight (earth skill with DEF-30%).
    I'm honestly worried about Quistis at this point.

    Edit: But let's not forget this gem on that banner:

    Celes USB: 10xST Holy/Ice/Wind/Non-ele physical dmg, self Grand Cross, Spellblade Damage+++ and Spellblade Ability Double

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    I imagine Quisty will get the same treatment as Edgar and get a triple or double element poison/whatever USB and a burst2 with imperil whatever with a bio base instead of non-elemental.

    At least Quisty will already have the ability (chain-bioga) to take advantage of her poison typing.

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    I doubt that, considering her entire everything in this game is poison.

    If they don't give her a poison USB chase or chain they've royally fucked up the only unique thing about her.

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    I thought I had heard poison was being retired as a type of elemental damage?

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    It's a running joke, not truth.

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    It is more of a joke but the game also reflects that. With the advent of magicites poison has really fallen off the radar (if it ever was) and it's still the only element lacking proper Imperils (Edgar is the only option and through a very dated SSB or chase commands no one is gonna bother using) and Chains. Unless Quistis changes that it's pretty much done for and they've been skipping Quistis in almost every new FFVIII banner for a very long time... she still doesn't have a USB while others have 3-4 lol.

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    Putting it all on Quistis is a little burdensome though, as its kind of redundant to have her with the poison CSB, the main poison BSB, and the only legit poison OSB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Putting it all on Quistis is a little burdensome though, as its kind of redundant to have her with the poison CSB, the main poison BSB, and the only legit poison OSB.
    Well they did the same with Tidus and water. He has the only water CSB, one of the main water USBs and OSBs (we don't have Meia so GL is -1) and everything is on his shoulders right now. All of the other Poison related characters have shifted to other elements right now, she'll either follow or be the ultimate poison machine. I highly doubt we'll see a CSB at this point but let's wait until they decide to finally release something new for her.

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    are there any repeats on CSBs? i always assumed there was only one for each element

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moridam View Post
    are there any repeats on CSBs? i always assumed there was only one for each element
    In the Superfests we skipped (but are getting combined this December) they released a bunch of new Chains for each element. I'm probably forgetting something but there's Locke/Krile for Fire, Snow/Rinoa for ice, Zack for wind, Ingus for earth, Kain/Shantotto for thunder, Tidus for Water, WoL for holy and Garland/Seymour for dark. We should be getting the remaining ones soon enough according to the recent datamine.

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    Then I think I'll hold onto my Mythril until these are introduced. I hit 50 today and I'm going to wait until I have a better option for relic pulls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalhart View Post
    Then I think I'll hold onto my Mythril until these are introduced. I hit 50 today and I'm going to wait until I have a better option for relic pulls.
    Isn't the Tactics event considered a god tier for one of the banners? I'm sitting on 150ish right now myself though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Isn't the Tactics event considered a god tier for one of the banners? I'm sitting on 150ish right now myself though.
    Yes but all the god tier relics will be on the next Tactics event and the rest is replaced with even more god tier relics (Agrias out, TGCid in). It also has healer relics for Alma in case anyone needs that as well but it's like 3 months away and close to the third anniversary banners.

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    Ahh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Yes but all the god tier relics will be on the next Tactics event and the rest is replaced with even more god tier relics (Agrias out, TGCid in). It also has healer relics for Alma in case anyone needs that as well but it's like 3 months away and close to the third anniversary banners.
    This one is worth pulling for those (like myself) who doesn't have Ramza USB/SSB2 or Agrias relics.

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    Sure, that's a good reason. I'd love Genji myself but my Ramza is already packed with options and I wouldn't be able to use it effectively. If you like Agrias this is an amazing banner for her and has tons of great relics in it but if you don't there's a better option on the horizon for your general Tactics party building. You can also find both Agrias and Ramza USBs on Banner #2 of the next Tactics event (as well as Genji gloves and Agrias BSB) but that pales in comparison to this banner imo.

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    Out of curiosity, what are the commands on his BSB2? I only have his first one which has the 5 holy hits, then cmd1 wrath a party member of cmd2 holy attack.

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    Entry is basically Shout+Enholy on himself, his CMD1 is a 5-hit holy attack that generates no SB gauge and CMD2 is Wrath (minus the small attack boost). The true gem imo is the LMR allowing him to start any first turn with full ATB and one turn of instant cast.

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