The BG Health Care Thread: Decreasing the Surplus Population

[Melena]

These people are literally responsible for countless avoidable deaths and people still go "yeah but murder is a step too far".

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I just don't want to get deported to El Salvador.

[Outlaw]

If you kill a murderer in order to stop them from killing more people is it still murder?

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[Byrthnoth]

This is For Profit healthcare in end stage capitalism? What did people think was happening?

I mean, sure, go off about how outrageous it is, but this is what we should expect given our system.

[Gredival]

If you kill a murderer in order to stop them from killing more people is it still murder?

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Yes, but morality is a product of consequences of the action not the nature of the action, so the fact it is murder is irrelevant.

[kuronosan]

These people are literally responsible for countless avoidable deaths and people still go "yeah but murder is a step too far".

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Ah I don't wish death on them but that means murder is a step too far in... what way?

Murder is expected for these predatory assholes and I cry zero tears because of the harm they do to my patients. I won't kill em, I won't wish em dead, but I couldn't really care less if Luigi came out with a new game soon.

[Cantih]

"Will no one rid me of these turbulent C-suites?"

[NotGreyheim]

These people are literally responsible for countless avoidable deaths and people still go "yeah but murder is a step too far".

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Does it ever get tiring, looking for something to argue about in absolutely everything?

[NotGreyheim]

House has passed the BBB.

Medicaid, the program that provides health insurance to more than 71 million low-income Americans, would undergo big changes. That includes new work requirements for adults enrolled in Medicaid expansion beginning in December of 2026, more frequent eligibility checks, and disincentives for states to cover unauthorized migrant children, among other provisions.

Estimates put the number of people losing Medicaid at 7.8m last I checked. I assume that number doesn't account for the fact that the bill was designed to bury them under of mountains of paperwork that they can't keep up with every year.

Even last year I received no fewer than 4 separate packets of paperwork asking for things such as special education programs from when I was in school, to having me list every blood and imaging test I've ever had (including names of doctors and addresses for their practices). Oh, and those packets were also delivered to me well past the "Return by" date.

And they plan to make it even harder for people to keep up with it all...

[arus2001]

Probably a safe bet I'll be axed from it. Only just got on back in April relative to my January ER visit and working with hospital billing, but part of that process was pretty heavy-handed with the disbelief I'd been a full-time caretaker for my parents since 2007 and not someone traditionally "in the system" as your token wage slave. Regardless, much like my conservative sisters, they'll just assume I do nothing and am a leech upon society, so fingers crossed I can get my shoulder injury figured out before they pull the plug.

[NotGreyheim]

Yeah, I've been pretty much unemployable for more than 20 years now. Once this bill passes I'll be on borrowed time. I wonder if my father will feel any guilt for voting for this once I'm gone...

[Tyche]

Yeah, I've been pretty much unemployable for more than 20 years now. Once this bill passes I'll be on borrowed time. I wonder if my father will feel any guilt for voting for this once I'm gone...

My MIL has blown up her family for Trump. She knows that her own daughters refuse to invite her to so many special grandkids events because they're just tired of her. She made an anti-trans joke, in my house, on her grandkids birthday and got thrown out. Of her 2 year old autistic grandchild's birthday.

It's a cult man. Accept it and move on with your life.

[archibaldcrane]

My wife is dependent on very new drug developments to not die of her extremely dangerous cancer - drugs we buy thanks to our Obamacare insurance that Trump nearly destroyed last time he was president

Let's just say she sent some nasty texts regarding all of this to her evangelical parents who voted Trump for a 3rd time after he won

Their response? "We pray your health coverage isn't reduced"

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[Salodin]

Honestly, like I don't wish harm on these people.

But seriously, how long, how many generations can live peacefully with people who would vote to do you and yours harm? They'll never do it themselves, but they'll vote to have someone do it to you to wash their hands of the guilt. It's ludicrous

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[kuronosan]

I mean at this point any of my colleagues celebrating this are dead to me. I've already stopped talking to family or friends who supported this.

I'm going to have so many patients decompensate because of this shit if it gets signed into law. Fucking unreal.

[Ayn]

Honestly, like I don't wish harm on these people.

But seriously, how long, how many generations can live peacefully with people who would vote to do you and yours harm? They'll never do it themselves, but they'll vote to have someone do it to you to wash their hands of the guilt. It's ludicrous

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I don't wish harm on them, but after reading stories like that about Archi and Tyche's in-laws, I'd feel hard pressed to go out of my way to help them if they were in harm's way.

Tyche in particular, I'm sorry man. But good on the family for not putting up with that nonsense.

[Melena]

So glad my Nana passed away and never got to see this. My Aunt though (my Nana's daughter) is highly autistic. She's basically a functional 11 year old in a 60+ year old body. She's in an assisted living home, basically living off of her half of my Nana's house sale + her 1400ish a month social security, and a couple of annuities paying about 1200 a month to pay her 3200 a month rent (includes her meals, transportation to doctors appointments, store visits, etc.) but she's also easily exploited and people where she used to work at took advantage of her financially to the point my dad had to step in, get control of her bank accounts, and help her negotiate credit card settlements.

Now it's me managing her social security money, and her brother (finally being reliable after decades of being an alcoholic, though I have had to yell at him about being so slow on getting her money into cd's, mutual funds, etc. so it's not just sitting in a savings account doing nothing) trying to beat into her head that she doesn't need to buy everyone gifts for every occasion, she doesn't need to eat out constantly or buy food at the store when her meals are provided for her, etc.

She also has mental health issues and I believe the onset of alzheimers, and also here's one thing, her mind registers another, and we have to do damage control. Thankfully her job she had was union so she has Kaiser, but she has Medicare to supplement what Kaiser doesn't pick up, and I'm afraid this is going to be another mess.

[Yabby]

You all have more grace than I do. I struggle not to wish harm on these people.

[Tyrath]

I don't struggle at all.

[Meresgi]

Honestly, like I don't wish harm on these people.

I do, I get why they voted the way they did. I get how a cult also can ensnare you very easily and a lot of shit going wrong with this country helped push a ton into the cult...but they need to be harmed. Some mother fuckers just need to get hit.

[Outlaw]

In a ray of hope this does have to pass the Senate where some Republicans said they are going to vote against it.

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