Guilty of what exactly? Are they saying his intent, which was to be a shitlord, was not his intent and he's actually a white supremacist?
Guilty of what exactly? Are they saying his intent, which was to be a shitlord, was not his intent and he's actually a white supremacist?
basically saying it's a hate crime and that he was inciting violence with his pug, there was also an alternative charge about "posting offensive material on social media" back when I first was reading about the story. I'll have to see what they actually found him guilty of, he was facing up to a year in prison for this stupid shit.
yeah, I've seen a video or two pop up on youtube, I'll have to keep an eye on them to see the full story.
I hope lawful masses does a video but I doubt it because its an overseas case.
I wonder if he apologized during the court case or doubled down on what he did as a playful joke.
Trying to google anything about this but all I'm seeing is content by alt-right reactionaries.
i think kind of both, obviously sticking with the joke defense, because that's what it is, but he also apologized like immediately after he was arrested iirc
They've just set a very dangerous precedent that will ripple out through Ireland(?) and eventually the world.
But did he make that case in court or did he keep serving to 'it was a joke guys' because if he did the latter he probably got slammed by the people taking the case against him.
Context matters and that fact that you have a circle of reactionaries that resembles anything out of the MAGA or Gamergate crowd tells me this a lot.
Its scotland and no. Its hate speech laws is what he's getting fucked under and he managed to get the wrong sort of attention and since youtube is youtube they didn't simply just pull the video because youtube is not responsible for the content its users put up there.
I mean are you shocked the anti-PC crowd is supporting this guy or something? There is no doubt that it is an offensive video, there is also no doubt it was obviously a joke.
I don't know how his defense went in court though tbh but I can't imagine he went with "yeah actually i wanted to gas the jews but i'm sorry now"
Okay, Scotland was my second go to, but I went with my first guess.
It sets a precedent that intent doesn't matter, and on top of that, you can't defend your intent by simply stating it. You decide the intent of your words, not someone else. If this isn't nipped in the bud, it will cause great harm to everyone.
I'm unfamiliar if where you are has hate speech laws, but they exist here. I really see the people who want to control speech amplifying this and trying to use it as precedent to get traction in their own regions.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...find_out_fate/
Finally something not reactionary.
ContinuesAt the start of the video Meechan posted, he says: "My girlfriend is always ranting and raving about how cute and adorable her wee dog is so I thought I would turn him into the least cute thing I could think of which is a Nazi."
But the procurator fiscal have argued that they do not believe the video was intended to be a joke and that Meechan had "a particular audience in mind" when he uploaded it to YouTube.
In the video, Meechan repeats the phrase "gas the Jews" 23 times which The Crown described as "reckless" and "extremely offensive to the Jewish community".
Man that prosecution is good.But on Friday, the procurator fiscal said: "In a criminal court in Scotland, Mr Meechan does not decide the context, the court decided."
The prosecution described Meechan as a "highly intelligent and articulate individual" but said that the pug was being used as a "prop".
Also obviously Countdankula doesn't know the comedy rule of threes.
so are you agreeing with the prosecution here lol
you dont get to decide if it's a joke or not sir
his sentencing deferred until april 23rd
It's funny cause you say this, but it turns out he actually did say gas the jews lmfaoooo.
Hate speech laws are weird, and we don't know all the evidence offered by the prosecution. Is he a white nationalist? Is this the first time he's been caught with white nationalist "jokes"? People say stupid shit all the time, but this is the first I've seen a guy prosecuted for something like this. That doesn't make me think this is crazy and out of line, it makes me think you're missing the whole story. I'd really like to see the entire case they made against him.
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... i know he said gas the jews since I linked the video in my very first post.