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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    6M is a pretty important number.

    Ancient history, smh. There are people still alive today who were in camps.
    11 million is the more important number but Jews got that marketing game on lock

    and yeah there's no way to sugarcoat the poll. it's the largest genocide in human history and took place within a lifetime. ignorance of it is some shameful shit.

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    how is it an important number? how does the exact figure of 6M pertain to my life as opposed to say, "millions" or "the worst in history"? it's like knowing Pi to 50000 digits, you don't need to know more than 3.14 unless you're a theoretical physicist or rocket scientist or something.

    and those people are 83 years old at an absolute minimum. that's older than my grandparents. that's most definitely ancient history because it happened 40 years before i was even born. maybe it's not ancient history to you if you're of previous generations, and that's fine. but the thing about history is tragedies eventually sink into the past. I don't expect kids 50 years from me to know the exact figures of how many people died in the september 11 attacks either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    it's ancient history, .
    Nah.

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    the best part about being history dumb like myself is that you don't get spoilered when it all happens again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    how is it an important number? how does the exact figure of 6M pertain to my life as opposed to say, "millions" or "the worst in history"? it's like knowing Pi to 50000 digits, you don't need to know more than 3.14 unless you're a theoretical physicist or rocket scientist or something.

    and those people are 83 years old at an absolute minimum. that's older than my grandparents. that's most definitely ancient history because it happened 40 years before i was even born. maybe it's not ancient history to you if you're of previous generations, and that's fine. but the thing about history is tragedies eventually sink into the past. I don't expect kids 50 years from me to know the exact figures of how many people died in the september 11 attacks either.
    You're absolutely right, who cares about the largest genocidal event in human history that triggered (ok, not on its own, but it was a part of it) world war 2??


    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    No wonder none of these idiots can notice the similarities between Nazi Germany and whats going on today.

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    whenever someone like jordan peterson or joe rogan starts talking about history i turn it off, miss me with that

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    subliminal andalusian girls diss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    . it's ancient history, .
    I don't think you know what ancient means. Or at least ancient history outside of the slang use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    how is it an important number? how does the exact figure of 6M pertain to my life as opposed to say, "millions" or "the worst in history"? it's like knowing Pi to 50000 digits, you don't need to know more than 3.14 unless you're a theoretical physicist or rocket scientist or something.

    and those people are 83 years old at an absolute minimum. that's older than my grandparents. that's most definitely ancient history because it happened 40 years before i was even born. maybe it's not ancient history to you if you're of previous generations, and that's fine. but the thing about history is tragedies eventually sink into the past. I don't expect kids 50 years from me to know the exact figures of how many people died in the september 11 attacks either.
    So the Holocaust

    The event in which 6 million European Jews were systematically wiped out in the name of ethnic superiority by the Nazi party, which remains active today and is once again trying to spread throughout the U.S. and Europe

    The event which led directly to the creation of the nation of Israel, which has in turn been the focal point of western Middle East policy for 60+ years and at least tangentially responsible for hundreds of thousands of more lives lost through war and interventionism

    The event which has had such a lasting influence on social, military, and political agendas throughout western society that it shaped doctrine for decades subsequent and still guides us today

    is not important enough and doesn't affect your life enough that you think it's worth it to know precise numbers.

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    They really need to stop cutting school budgets so we can keep our classes like greek/jew mythology.

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    yall really need to check your knowledge privilege rn whole lot of micro-aggressing and smoothbrain shaming going on, started to report a couple of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    You're absolutely right, who cares about the largest genocidal event in human history that triggered (ok, not on its own, but it was a part of it) world war 2??
    i asked how 6M was an important number as opposed to "the worst in history". why do i need to keep this random number around in my head for the rest of my life? I already know the halocaust was the worst in history, and that it was a horrible tragedy that shouldn ever be repeated. i've read "the diary of a young girl". i already learned the important things about the holocaust. if you want to remember the exact body count thats fine by me, but don't go screaming that people don't care about an event that happened before their parents were born (heck, before some of their grandparents were born) because they don't remember that one fact. that's just going to cause people to focus less on the tragedy and more on you, being a triggered whiny bitch. who's being the uncaring one in that case?

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    Because when you say "the worst in history" it's fairly important people have context for what that means.

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    it actually does bother me the 5 million non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust get almost entirely ignored in these discussions. guess getting murdered for being queer or a gypsy isn't as on lit yeet fleek as the millennials say

    b t dubs the Armenian genocide? Turks killed half a million Greeks and a quarter of a million Assyrians too.

    though i guess really its their own own fault for not investing in PR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    the halocaust
    the lesser known loss of a whole nation of masterchiefs

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    For how long must the death of countless slavs go unknown and uncared ><!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    it actually does bother me the 5 million non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust get almost entirely ignored in these discussions. guess getting murdered for being queer or a gypsie isn't as on lit yeet fleek as the millennials say
    6 is bigger than 5 duh, obviously we had to separate the figures out for reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I love how Fiye is so defensive on this, he is going out of his way to poke holes and not make it look so bad.
    Oh my fucking god you are such blithering incapable moron.

    Like AG said the assumed cost is 11m lives (est 6m of which were jews) because the atrocities of the holocaust were so horrific that trying to get a realistic account of the horrors that happened is impossible.

    But what is truly fucking dreadful is these groups push this shit to help secure military arms for Israel rather than do the things that would've prevented those lives to be lost which is to allow refugees to migrate to other countries safely. Because Jews were trying to escape from a growing nationalistic empire that was rounding up an ethnic minority that was being blamed for the woes of an economically povished Germany.

    But you're so fucking retarded that you're using that single point to prove that millennials are mistakenly pointing out that our government is acting like a facist germany when the blinding fucking truth your canuck ass will fail to fucking realize is that the US has this thing called IC&E that has been using fear tactics and targetting powerless immigrants to tear them away from families and kick them to a country that they felt was so fucking dangerous they trekked their ass into the US.

    I know you're fucking baiting me and (I'm fucking devouring the shit out of it) but go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    So the Holocaust

    The event in which 6 million European Jews were systematically wiped out in the name of ethnic superiority by the Nazi party, which remains active today and is once again trying to spread throughout the U.S. and Europe

    The event which led directly to the creation of the nation of Israel, which has in turn been the focal point of western Middle East policy for 60+ years and at least tangentially responsible for hundreds of thousands of more lives lost through war and interventionism

    The event which has had such a lasting influence on social, military, and political agendas throughout western society that it shaped doctrine for decades subsequent and still guides us today

    is not important enough and doesn't affect your life enough that you think it's worth it to know precise numbers.

    I would wager you can name every Pokémon.
    i haven't even played pokemon in like a decade. i can remember maybe the names of most of the first 250 or so, but only if i saw a picture of them first. i certainly couldn't assign them to their proper numbers. i can remember some of the story of those games though, which i'd say is a more important thing to remember than whether arcanine is pokemon #30 or #54 or whatever. if i ever needed to know the exact # for some reason, i'd just check the pokedex, just like i'd check Wikipedia or something before quoting the exact # of jews that died in the holocaust to someone because i hate getting numbers wrong and i wouldn't trust my memory to recall it.

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    Yeah, as long as someone can agree the Holocaust was Really Bad(tm), I'm not gonna roast their nuts for not knowing the exact body count. If the broader gripe is that kids today are being poorly educated, I'll just give a resounding, "No shit..." as it's a direct consequence of long-term GOP strategy that's only recently seeing real pushback with the various teachers strikes going on recently.

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