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    Singer's toast now, seems like. Of all the Hollywood villainry we've heard about his is by far the easiest to believe. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I don't doubt he had something to do with the death of his last accuser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    You know, I was thinking about these assaults lately while blasting through Stranger Things.

    In general, what do you guys feel about these two things in films/shows:

    1. Underage actors performing sexual actions to other underage actors (ie. kissing/making out/etc.)

    2. Adult actors portraying underage roles performing sexual actions to other adult actors. (ie. kissing/making out/etc.)

    While obviously we would hope that adults would know better than to molest kids, I feel like we as a society are helping to continue the sexualization of younger kids. Plus:

    Stranger things season 1 & 2 spoiler

    Spoiler: show
    Having Millie and Finn kiss may be playing a part, but they actually had to kiss. It feels a little bit like coercion and creepy to be all "You want this part and millions of dollars? Then kiss." afaik She was only 12 at the time of the first season. And here we all are trying to root to watch the two kiss. It's weird.


    Maybe I am over thinking it, but it definitely feels that we, the consumers, treat kid actors like they are adults. I remember there was some issue of people flipping the fuck out because Finn didn't sign autographs, when he's just a kid. So, I feel we are part to blame for actors treating kid actors like adults.
    It's acting and that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    I feel as though this was touched on already here,
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...=1#post6977267
    and here,
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...=1#post6977251
    and as for sexualizing kids it is definitely something we do and push on the constant through media, but I think we peaked back in the days with stuff like this,
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...=1#post6980386
    Sorry, I probably skimmed past those since I hadn't seen the show yet. But good that people are noticing this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    It's acting and that's all.
    Why do kid actors not deserve the same protection as other kids?

    Would you be ok with a teacher making your kid kiss another in class for a project?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Why do kid actors not deserve the same protection as other kids?

    Would you be ok with a teacher making your kid kiss another in class for a project?
    Yes but if shit goes unreported then wtf are we supposed to do about it. There's no laws that kick in a shut the thing down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    Yes but if shit goes unreported then wtf are we supposed to do about it. There's no laws that kick in a shut the thing down.
    Well, I am not asking for laws, so much as people's thoughts on whether there SHOULD be more laws/protections.

    Or, if anything, a movement to boycott that behavior so companies are discouraged to do it.

    Which sucks, 'cause I actually really do like the show, but those bits put a sour taste in my mouth considering everything that is coming to light.

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    Minors on set have pretty damn strict rules enforced by the union.

    But the idea that as actors they shouldn't be able to kiss other actors as part of a scene or simulate sexual contact in scene...uh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    minors simulate sexual contact in scenes
    I'm glad that we agree leaving out the gangbang in IT was a huge disservice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Minors on set have pretty damn strict rules enforced by the union.

    But the idea that as actors they shouldn't be able to kiss other actors as part of a scene or simulate sexual contact in scene...uh...

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    So you are ok with what happened in season 2? (that panda linked)

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    Actors, especially child actors, especially in scenes involving sexual contact, should be clearly informed about and consenting to the scene in which they are performing.

    (I haven't seen Stranger Things beyond the pilot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Minors on set have pretty damn strict rules enforced by the union.
    I remember reading an article on the child actress who played Lyanna Mormont on GoT having no real idea what the show is even about because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Actors, especially child actors, especially in scenes involving sexual contact, should be clearly informed about and consenting to the scene in which they are performing.
    Is a childactor capable of consenting to a sexually intimate scene with simulated sexual contact doe?

    Can you have a kid consent to an intimate game of pretend doctor after they are clearly informed? Asking for a friend.

    Spoiler: show
    What if you don't get a boner, would that make it kosher?

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    I always get a little creeped out in Interview With The Vampire when 12 year old Kirsten Dunst kisses Brad Pitt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Why do kid actors not deserve the same protection as other kids?

    Would you be ok with a teacher making your kid kiss another in class for a project?
    If it was for theatre, then yes. But only if my kid was ok with it.




    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    So you are ok with what happened in season 2? (that panda linked)
    Yes.

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    Found the pedo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    If it was for theatre, then yes. But only if my kid was ok with it.


    Yes.
    Dimmy DID have a stroke.

    (hint: actress was not ok with it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Dimmy DID have a stroke.

    (hint: actress was not ok with it)
    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/str...on-1201895333/


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    I mean, watch the video conversation. She definitely doesn't sound like she was ok with it. Sounds more likely she received backlash and is backpedaling over it, which is sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    I mean, watch the video conversation. She definitely doesn't sound like she was ok with it. Sounds more likely she received backlash and is backpedaling over it, which is sad.
    I'm all for believing the victim. I'm not really for deciding to be outraged for the victim when she says otherwise.

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