Hollywood: Sexual assault whack-a-mole

[Ksandra]

I love how Ksandra is trying to compare a stage kiss to someone’s first kiss. First, if a kiss is a simulated sex scene, I simulated losing my virginity then much sooner then I thought. Second, if two trained actors are swapping spit for a movie, unless there’s already something going on or they negotiate it before hand, there really isn’t a lot of spit swapping going on.

What? I never compared any of these things. I don’t care if the actor kissed before or not. And I have no idea where spit swapping came from.

[Ksandra]

Are you ever going to address the fact that the alleged victim here says that nothing happened or is that too inconvenient to your narrative?

Her reaction to them telling her she was going to kiss was “No, we are not doing that.” Her recorded words. The convo should have stopped there and be left out of the script. It wasn’t even all that important to do. The fact that she back pedaled means they had to convince her it was ok, and that’s wrong.

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Here’s how the convo with the kid should have gone: “Are you ok with kissing?” “No” “Ok then.” And don’t script it. The end. Not to joke and say, “Well now we have to make you do it.” Which is what they said happened.


Just because they convinced her, doesn’t make it better. It makes it worse imo because they had to convince her it was ok to do. Her saying now it was ok just means they succeeded.

[Tyrath]

I love that she thinks believing the supposed victim that nothing happened is the same as believing the perpetrator (trump) that he didn't do anything.

Fucking lol.

[Melena]

What? I never compared any of these things. I don’t care if the actor kissed before or not. And I have no idea where spit swapping came from.

Ok I guess you live in a rock as swapping spit was a term for kissing, and you were the one just a few pages back (tapatalk pages) asking how much money does it take to make having your first kiss be in a movie is fine.

Jesus fuck, this type of stuff is Wednesday for an actor. Hell, how often do you see a movie with kids kissing or fucking that doesn’t actually even pertain to the story. It’s rare as fuck. Probably the two most obvious ones is les miserables and kids. It’s not like we have kids fucking in every movie

[Ksandra]

I only said first kiss because in this particular situation it was theirs. Not that only first kisses matter. It was just a descriptor, and I didn’t think people would think it was anything more than that.

There’s a reason we don’t see teen actors fucking due to protections placed on them. I’m not convinced that’s where the line should be drawn.


Nothing of value is lost if the kids didn’t kiss. It was not some unavoidable plot point, just fluff.

[Deftscythe]

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Here’s how the convo with the kid should have gone: “Are you ok with kissing?” “No” “Ok then.” And don’t script it. The end. Not to joke and say, “Well now we have to make you do it.” Which is what they said happened.


Just because they convinced her, doesn’t make it better. It makes it worse imo because they had to convince her it was ok to do. Her saying now it was ok just means they succeeded.

I guess I'll let the actress in question know that a poster on a forum for a dead MMO says that no, in fact, she WAS a victim. I'm sure she'll be grateful you're here to tell her how to feel.

[NynJa]

I have zero idea of your thought process, but I’ve been talking about getting kids to do sexual acts for money. Even if kissing is very minor, it’s still a sexual act. This would be a completely different conversation if the next door neighbor was paying kids $5 to kiss and let him record it. But we as a society says that’s ok for Hollywood to do, and I’m not sure we should be.

Tell us more about "losing your first kiss"...

[Ksandra]

Tell us more about "losing your first kiss"...

I only said first kiss because in this particular situation it was theirs. Not that only first kisses matter. It was just a descriptor, and I didn’t think people would think it was anything more than that.

There’s a reason we don’t see teen actors fucking due to protections placed on them. I’m not convinced that’s where the line should be drawn.


Nothing of value is lost if the kids didn’t kiss. It was not some unavoidable plot point, just fluff.

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[Ksandra]

I guess I'll let the actress in question know that a poster on a forum for a dead MMO says that no, in fact, she WAS a victim. I'm sure she'll be grateful you're here to tell her how to feel.

I guess we’ll let all the silent actors know they weren’t victims. I’m sure they’ll be happy about that. Oh look, that’s what brought us here in the first place.

[Day]

Chef Mario Batali: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ent/939785001/

[Dimmauk]

I only said first kiss because in this particular situation it was theirs. Not that only first kisses matter. It was just a descriptor, and I didn’t think people would think it was anything more than that.

There’s a reason we don’t see teen actors fucking due to protections placed on them. I’m not convinced that’s where the line should be drawn.


Nothing of value is lost if the kids didn’t kiss. It was not some unavoidable plot point, just fluff.

My 11 year old yelled "OMG IT'S ABOUT TIME, I'VE BEEN WAITING 2 SEASONS FOR THAT" when Mike and Eleven finally kissed.

[6souls]

Chef Mario Batali: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ent/939785001/

Not Bata

[Xno Kappa]

What guidelines are we using on when or when not to believe the actress/“victim”? Is there an easy to read flowchart I can use?

[Melena]

What guidelines are we using on when or when not to believe the actress/“victim”? Is there an easy to read flowchart I can use?

At this point, I don't think there's even a suitable flowchart. I mean Ksandra thinks kids are getting raped/molested in every movie that's been released that has a kid in it.

[Deftscythe]

I guess we’ll let all the silent actors know they weren’t victims. I’m sure they’ll be happy about that. Oh look, that’s what brought us here in the first place.

Yeah. It was awful how for years people refused to take women seriously about their experiences because it was inconvenient for them. Glad we've stopped that now.

[chazzyphizzle]

take women seriously not girls duh

[Ragnus]

http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/12/11/...ok-allegations

Tom Ashbrook from NPR's On Point had about a dozen former colleagues come forward with complaint of him being verbally and psychologically abusive. Women he used to work with claim that for them it was taken a step further with unwanted physical contact in the form of hugs and neck rubs after being berated.

[TummieGaruda]

Chef Mario Batali: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ent/939785001/

Dude looked like a creeper, I am not surprised.

[dasva]

Glad to see this thread remained retarded over the whole weekend. Good job bg

[Kalmado]

Someone needs to step away from the internets.....