Final Fantasy Record Keeper: Zero Magicite Thirty - A 2018 RNG-dyssey

[Alkar]

You can easily RW Tyro anyway. In any content with forced RWs you have normal Wall as an option and Proshellga is everywhere nowadays. So far I've either used native Wall+ Rikku USB RW or the other way around. You really don't need Y'shtola to cover all that unless you have none of the tools above mentioned.

[kuronosan]

I also RW Rikku frequently. If I pull Tyro tonight y'all can just leach.

[IceSylph]

Y'shtola is still great as a healer, even in 4* magicites. While I do use her less often now a days than I used to, she still sees quite a bit of use. If a fight doesn't need an astra source, I typically use her. I have other great healers like Selphie USB, Iris BSB/LMR, Deuce BSB, Ovelia USB (Last Stand is still nice), etc, but the dualcasts help a ton with keeping you alive. While instant cast is great, a lot enemies are scripted that you can pre-emptively put up a bubble to take the brunt of the damage. DC CMD1 is also no joke. She still solo heals Tiamat, Marilith, and Kraken for 4* for me. The other 3 I use Selphie and Larsa/Iris combo. I want to dive Selphie, but without her BSB2, unless I can reliably speed clear every magicite, Curada tends to run out of hones, without the DC.

The real healer I want to dive is Larsa if I can snag his USB, then I will. He's probably my favorite healer in the game due to the astra, and having support 5.

[hyoton]

Most of the 4 stars don't actually need pro and shell (kraken can use drawfire RM for counters and his only dangerous phys aoe is piercing; marilith has one dangerous phys which you can heal past; isgebind is phys only; tia really wants both; midgard can use both but is weaker at phys IIRC and is kind of just easy; ix only needs pro if you aren't blinking in which case you are probably running guts and/or last stand anyway). Using a bar on aetherial seems like an outright terrible idea but if it sub 30s then go for it.

I haven't used ysh in a non XIV mission in forever. Her ultra is worthlessly bad and her skills are okay but dualcast on white mage is bad. The one situation where it is good is if you don't actually care when the dualcasts proc (eg 4 hits will kill you but if you get a proc on one of the three heals you do then you don't die). The difference between damage and healing dualcasts is that you generally don't care when dualcast occurs (squall burst might be an exception except getting a dualcast on command 1 is honestly really good). So if you dualcast early in the fight or late in the fight it's fine because you're carving through a million HP anyway and boss's damage taken doesn't generally change drastically between modes. In contrast a healing dualcast will usually either be useless (you weren't going to die anyway) or won't go off (because the vast majority of the time dualcasts don't occur).

This is different from healing quickcast which is amazing because it's perfectly consistent and standard quickcast, like eiko, is roughly equivalent healing over time to dualcast anyway. Eiko has the additional advantage of having a great burst for c2.

Additionally attack patterns and speed often drastically change at low hp for bosses. For example healing against low hp tiamat on a burst cast time is difficult but is trivial with any insta cast USB and at least one entrust (entrust DPS early, healers late). And high speed+aoe damage is when healing actually matters, which you can't control with dualcast. Exceptions might be isgebind air mode (but the additional attack at low hp air mode is significant) and marilith 6hit combo (blinkable and this is a good use of your nin blinks).

The thing with relm usb isn't just that she helps your offense; she also changes how you should approach entrusting. Relm speeds your wrathtrust cycle up a ton which means more meter for everyone which means at boss's low hp you become immortal until you run out of entrusts, particularly if you design the team so they don't need bars at low hp so she gets them all. She doesn't need dualcast LM or LMR because all she has to do for her job is stay alive. Ysh's advantage used to be being able to wrath up, but between ability update giving 5 and 6 star skills much more soul break (and heals are on a slightly faster cast time anyway than normal skills), and having to use a non instant soul break for high party heal, she doesn't retain the advantages that rosa does.

It isn't impossible by any means to sub 30 with ysh but I just don't see the point unless you have no other choice.

[Robertfb]

The above sums up perfectly why i've been trying to get a good healer USB. With Selphie USB, I can finally ditch 2 healer setups for Kraken and Tiamat and Midgardsormr and swap in full LD Shelke instead, instant heal USBs are the bomb!

[Kirin]

Been thinking about my pull situation this fest. Noticed Rosa's USB doesn't return yet in JP unless we get it in a fest. But we also won't see this concentration of chains again until next fest.

Tyro's mega wall returns next fest with arguably a much better (and one likely to remain intact because of Ulara) banner.

Thinking:
1 pull on dupe heavy lightning/ice
2 pulls on wind
3 on fire/water.

[Alkar]

Next Fest has Gen.2 Chains so there should be more/better Chains in general. Zack is the only safe bet at this point, they haven't figured out a way to make a new and better physical wind chain lol.

[hyoton]

Cod was annoying. I should have just zerged it down from the start.
Yeah at this point I've finished all the 4 star magis available; no point in me getting more chains (2/8) till the gen2s come out.

[Odesseiron]

I can't bother with CoD. I have a couple A-teams, but the particle beam spam is ridiculously annoying and I don't have Cloud BSB2. I do have his Ultra, but ehh.

[synistar]

For CoD, I brought out my Marlith team minus Ramza - Plus Setzer. Just throw her into the washing machine. Those with Rosa USB or Firion BSB are probably going to be in good shape.

[IceSylph]

CoD was annoying. I wanted to play fair, but 3 setups all lost, so I brought out the tried and true: When in doubt, Shelke it out.

Used Selphie for last stand, and just entrusted bars to Lightning and let her spam USB>BSB2>TT>USB/BSB2 etc.

[hyoton]

You know I've always known for a while non ele damage was bad but mathing out dervish and leaping rush for OK and wow this is really bad...

[Melena]

Bismarck is so god damn infuriating, I almost need two healers just to keep up with his fucking spam since he can hit with three different fucking elements, which makes no god damn sense.

[IceSylph]

Bismarck is so god damn infuriating, I almost need two healers just to keep up with his fucking spam since he can hit with three different fucking elements, which makes no god damn sense.

Just wait until when you get to Tiamat. Makes Bizzy look like a newborn.

[Alkar]

Some 5* magicite info is out. Basically both bosses have auto-hit status effects (paralyze for Quetz, Stun for Behemoth) meaning accessories are useless but Astra still blocks them, stats are double/triple compared to their 4* fellas and Behemoth has a self healing Overflow ability. Behemoth also has Earth and Thunder elemental attacks.

[hyoton]

Bismarck is so god damn infuriating, I almost need two healers just to keep up with his fucking spam since he can hit with three different fucking elements, which makes no god damn sense.

It's a FFVI reference!

[hyoton]

Some 5* magicite info is out. Basically both bosses have auto-hit status effects (paralyze for Quetz, Stun for Behemoth) meaning accessories are useless but Astra still blocks them, stats are double/triple compared to their 4* fellas and Behemoth has a self healing Overflow ability. Behemoth also has Earth and Thunder elemental attacks.

Only 66.5k res? That's pretty weak. I mean minus the flat damage reduction.
250k gil and arcana for sub 30? Yeah I know what I"m not going to bother doing...lol. So revamped torments are the new endgame?

[Alkar]

5* magicites are supposedly harder than Torments but yeah. They pretty much removed all farming though which is a blessing imo.

[Melena]

It's a FFVI reference!

I can't believe I forgot he taught the 3 level 1 elemental spells....

[Moridam]

do 5* magicites cap at 20% for primary effects?