Final Fantasy Record Keeper: Zero Magicite Thirty - A 2018 RNG-dyssey

[Robertfb]

Not sure I can deal with the 350s

so Whats the deal with Diamong weapon, should just Magic dmg him without opening his core? Or calculate when you can deal with gravity attacks?

Try and keep his core open at all times, he'll just sit there and countdown instead of attacking, alot easier to mitigate. This is 100% a magic fight unfortunately, if you can manage to bring either water magic or holy magic DD, this will have an easier time. I ended up using Meia BSB and Rydia BSB2/OSB (OSB didn't do much) as my DD, both of which I got from AA volume 9.

[Ratatapa]

Try and keep his core open at all times, he'll just sit there and countdown instead of attacking, alot easier to mitigate. This is 100% a magic fight unfortunately, if you can manage to bring either water magic or holy magic DD, this will have an easier time. I ended up using Meia BSB and Rydia BSB2/OSB (OSB didn't do much) as my DD, both of which I got from AA volume 9.

with Fire acc or gravity one?

And does Rydia BSB2 command count as summon for the Core trick?

[synistar]

It's a summon school command so yes for both BSB1 and 2. I would need a check on Hope BSB2 Command 2. MisterP's pdf is giving me mixed messages on that one.

[Ratatapa]

If only they could wrath

[hyoton]

so the thing for diamond is that you can use ANY summon magic. anything from neo baham to chocobo. Once you get it open you can use all your insanely OP water physical characters and adequate holy users (i did holy to try out beatrix burst 2 but i digress). So you can use say a smn/whm with a medica, swinging with leviathan into a weakness for more meter and a heal, and if you volley the summons each time it closes the core with 3 chars, your only challenge is making sure you can heal 75% of your hp every few turns.

[Kirin]

So I upgraded Assault Saber to R4 for TG Cid's USB and got to thinking, what the minimal number of ability used would be to make it worthwhile. For planning purposes.

I can see the benefit of an R5, but weighing the orb cost vs the open ability slot. I'm guessing 2x R3's would be the minimum. Probably should focus more on power orbs for the fest over holy now too.

Also, for characters like Marche would that then necessitate a 3rd Assault Saber?

[synistar]

I have an R4 and an R3. Not sure if I'm going to bump it up to 2x R4 and an R3 to attempt FFT neo torment whale edition. I have the SBs to make a run at it but hones are another story
TGC USB and OSB
Agrias USB OSB
Marche USB
Melidoul BSB
Ramza USB and BSB

[hyoton]

unless you have the defense for guardbringer, yeeeeeeep

[synistar]

Yea looking at that sub 30 video (nope, def not going to try that) Key has 4x4 R4 + 1x R3 Assault Sabers and R3 Earth Saber. Yea fuck that noise. The sub 60 sec version ran 3xR4 and an R3.

[Moridam]

i have 2 R4 sabers for TGC. i haven't run out of hones for him yet because nothing has that much HP, but i'm sure that will change with neo torment.

[Kirin]

I'm probably going to go 1x R4 and 1x R3 for now. Agrias handles business with Cross/Guardbringer combo, so I'll just have to figure out what to do with Marche. Maybe a 3rd R3 AS just for that instance would be worthwhile.

What about Cid and Darkness?

[Moridam]

i really don't like TGC and dark skills tbh. without endark, sanguine cross is pretty lackluster, and while crimson somewhat makes up for that with the higher multiplier, you're also guaranteed to be down 50-75% HP/turn. that's why i threw most of my mythril stockpile at the FF4 decil banner, with his new toys he's the best physical dark DPS by a pretty significant margin (and with much lower hone requirements!).

[synistar]

I would alternate Dire Weapon + Sanguine Cross if you happen to have LMR. Going Crimson Cross is a death sentence.

Glad I don't have to bring TGC since I have other options for dark physical DPS (Riku LD and Leon USB, Gabranth if I have gaps to fill for WHM buffs, Sephiroth BSB2)

[mistmonster]

Sorry if I missed it but does any know if they are going to gift us gil again? I'm running so low these days.

[Kirin]

I believe the fest magic pot dunegon gives a 20mil or so chunk of gil one of these days.

[hyoton]

Ruby weapon: Annoying but didn't feel like it got much harder through the battle. I did physical dark team with seifer gen 2 chain; in hindsight it might have been easier to use raines burst instead. Tentacles sometimes leech skills but it didn't seem to be a huge issue.

Sapphire weapon: go, celes! go, squall! go...xezat?! Yes, xezat and his mostly terrible burst made it in by virtue of having an imperil ice. I remain unconvinced an imperil is better than an enelement but
(EDIT):...but I can see it having value on future 20 weak content.

Feels weird not using OK for everything but now I'm using tyro for everything, for the moment...

[Robertfb]

Sapphire got owned hard by my Tiamat Team: LD Squall (BSB2/AOSB), LD Ayame (BSB/OSB), LD OK (pUSB), Rikku (USB, replaced Shelke), LD Selphie (USB).

Gonna try Ruby later with my Siren Team.

[Moridam]

question for people who are versed in JP: how is cloud's USB2? obviously a lot narrower of a use case than the original, esp considering his lack of access to good wind skills. i notice the chase 'can' overflow, however; is this something that actually happens in practice, or only by a hair at the tail end of a wind chain?

[Kirin]

I think mathematically it's a side grade in perfect circumstances. However USB2 is an atk boost instead of USB's damage boost, and the chase attacks that can overflow on USB2 only have a 0.5 modifier so it's hard for it to crack 10k+ with the atk cap in place.

In practice it generally outputs similar damage, but USB wins big when you can stack damage and isn't tied to wind damage.

Think of it this way, the USB2 is more in line with standard USB'S than Clouds USB1 is broken.

[Pirian]

with the atk cap in place.

Has the attack cap been raised in the JP version?