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    They also gave Agrias the first 100% minor imperil proc USB2 (10x holy hits, imperil holy, every 2 knight abilities used chase with a 100% minor imperil holy hit).

    Also as much as D??? Seems impossibly hard on new torments, they clearly designed it to withstand a year+ of power creep and not be steam rolled Day 1 of release. That said, it definitely does require a hefty amount of in realm SB and LD and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertfb View Post
    They also gave Agrias the first 100% minor imperil proc USB2 (10x holy hits, imperil holy, every 2 knight abilities used chase with a 100% minor imperil holy hit).

    Also as much as D??? Seems impossibly hard on new torments, they clearly designed it to withstand a year+ of power creep and not be steam rolled Day 1 of release. That said, it definitely does require a hefty amount of in realm SB and LD and shit.
    Sure but I'm wondering what kind of power creep they have in mind when people with the best relics and full dives are barely able to sub 60. I don't see how you can clear under 30 seconds unless they're planning to release a Cloud USB for every realm.
    On that note I'm sure the Cloud USB(s)+Zack CSB owners will be able to sub 30 the VII Torment at release unless there's some gimmick thrown in.
    And these are meant to be weaker than 5* magicites as well lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Sure but I'm wondering what kind of power creep they have in mind when people with the best relics and full dives are barely able to sub 60. I don't see how you can clear under 30 seconds unless they're planning to release a Cloud USB for every realm.
    On that note I'm sure the Cloud USB(s)+Zack CSB owners will be able to sub 30 the VII Torment at release unless there's some gimmick thrown in.
    And these are meant to be weaker than 5* magicites as well lol...




    You were saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post


    You were saying?
    I said barely able to sub 60 with the best relics in the realm. That's a 59:56 clear lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    I said barely able to sub 60 with the best relics in the realm. That's a 59:56 clear lol.
    Fuck me i read this fight was sub 30


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Sure but I'm wondering what kind of power creep they have in mind when people with the best relics and full dives are barely able to sub 60. I don't see how you can clear under 30 seconds unless they're planning to release a Cloud USB for every realm.
    On that note I'm sure the Cloud USB(s)+Zack CSB owners will be able to sub 30 the VII Torment at release unless there's some gimmick thrown in.
    And these are meant to be weaker than 5* magicites as well lol...
    The same kind of power creep we've had since the game came out. All content we considered "hard" has become easy as more and more new "power creep" relics came out. Renewal dungeons alone proved how easy it was for us to roflstomp bosses we struggled with in the past.

    Like I said, the content was NOT designed to be sub 30'd on hardest difficulty on day 1. Just like 3* and 4* Magicite before it.

    Edit: Also wanted to say it sucks they require you to sub 30 each difficulty to afford to buy 1 of the new 6* ability record crystal.

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    That's some gnarly damage reduction for even 1 out of realm character.

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    I kind of wish they would make a 6* Full Breakdown that ignored break resist or something, maybe capping it at 35%.

    Invalidating stuff like Affliction Break and Support class characters though just seems silly and counter productive.

    If they're going to do that, they should go back and give every 5* support a 5* combat class to go along with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    I kind of wish they would make a 6* Full Breakdown that ignored break resist or something, maybe capping it at 35%.

    Invalidating stuff like Affliction Break and Support class characters though just seems silly and counter productive.

    If they're going to do that, they should go back and give every 5* support a 5* combat class to go along with it.
    That's what they've been doing basically. Ramza now has Knight 5* in JP and every other support has other 5*s as well (Shooter, Machinist, Bard, etc.).

    Edit: The new 6* abilities are limited to one copy btw, can't craft multiple...

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    I think they should just give them higher stats and HP. Why nerf breaks?

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    Or at the very least remove the debuff soft cap for the top tier content (keep the break resist I guess to compensate) so the best breakers can shine. Setzer on the sidelines makes me feel sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    That's what they've been doing basically. Ramza now has Knight 5* in JP and every other support has other 5*s as well (Shooter, Machinist, Bard, etc.
    Oh, didnt think every other Support 5 had another 5* damage option. Figured some of them were left hanging with 4* Machinist or Dragoon.

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    Most of the 5 star supports have offensive or other useful options anyway. Gordon, catdog, quina from a quick look are all 5 star sup as their only 5 star and edward doesn't have a 5 star offensive school (although he doesn't really deserve one anyway).

    EDIT: my problem with mag/atk breaks is similar to status ailments. Either not great at doing their job (enemy is above cap after break) or way too good (enemy goes below cap) and there's such variety in breaks now it isn't hard to get the latter. Mnd breaks are OK because they are useful to cut status ailment durations but don't usually completely remove the ailment as a threat. Def/res breaks are way too good as hp has gone up.

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    There's already a JP video of someone sub 20ing D280 FFT torment, but I haven't seen a single vid of a D??? attempt yet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cz8mh14b6E

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    Lol they released the ultimate + cm for ffxiv event

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    Well, support confirmed there are no CMs coming for this event meaning we're gonna lose more motes here. Fuck you DeNA, seriosuly.

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    Yeesh .... way to make this event even worse!

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    Yup, faster than expected. Then again that's a fully dived team with all the relics in the realm lol.

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    jesus, how many MHO is that in assault sabers? i think i've got enough for like... one R4 and an R3 if i blow my entire stash.

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