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    Reminds me of DAS. Which didn't break any rules so to speak, but FIA thought Merc had put enough time into researching it that other teams that implemented it would perpetually lag behind until it was standardized. They let it ride for the year Merc introduced it but banned it after that. Personally think that was a bad idea since the other teams would have caught up by now and it would have made racing more interesting. They accepted it because it was manual and didn't "break rules." If the brake thing RB was doing is real, then that's automatic, which could have been where contention came in.

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    McLaren fucking up another win cause they refuse to pick a #1 and fucked up the strategy. Lando looking fed up in that cooldown room

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    McLaren clearly doesn’t know how to have their drivers win and while the constructor’s is likely going to be sealed for McLaren with their recent record, they keep fucking over both their drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    McLaren fucking up another win cause they refuse to pick a #1 and fucked up the strategy. Lando looking fed up in that cooldown room

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    Haven't watched the race yet, but did Lando lose his pole position on the first lap again? Because it's tough for me to put all the blame on McLaren when this guy literally can't make it out of the first lap with his position intact.

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    Of course he did

    (He actually got a decent start and kept p1 through the first turn, but lost the spot quickly after)

    Oh and Kmag got a race ban

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    Lando only lost the spot because if he fought to protect it than both McLarens would have retired in the crash. Bullshit that Oscar pushed the fight in the way he did, and a part of the reason why people are pissed at him. Gave Lando no real choice, wasn't a team move, etc. It's as much on Oscar as it is McLaren for not settling on a #1 and focusing on the championship.

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    That type of move is absolutely the type of shit Max would pull on Lewis back before he got his first wdc. Just straight "let me through or none of us are finishing this race" type shit

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    mclaren bottling this championship will be absolute carnage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    mclaren bottling this championship will be absolute carnage.
    They're not gonna get either of them, when at one point they were poised to take both from right under red bulls noses. What a shit show over there...

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    McLaren is only 8 points behind in the constructors, they can absolutely win that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    McLaren is only 8 points behind in the constructors, they can absolutely win that
    i think they will win the constructors and lose the drivers by an oscar piastri sized margin

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    I would say back in Hungary they didn't think about WDC. Now seeing RB falter in both Zandvoort and Monza, it's up to Stella (and a lesser extent Zak Brown) to figure out what the team's aim will be for the remainder of the season - WDC or WCC - and the buy in from both Oscar and Lando.

    And ffs McLaren need to get a better strategist who is decisive. Looking at the shitty calls at Silverstone and Hungary which would have given Oscar the win there untainted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    That type of move is absolutely the type of shit Max would pull on Lewis back before he got his first wdc. Just straight "let me through or none of us are finishing this race" type shit

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    Incorrect, Piastri was clean, Lando fucked up. There wasn't a divebomb, there wasn't a dangerous move. Lando fucked up, then he didn't cover his fuckup. Also Piastri left Lando enough room to fight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes View Post
    Incorrect, Piastri was clean, Lando fucked up. There wasn't a divebomb, there wasn't a dangerous move. Lando fucked up, then he didn't cover his fuckup. Also Piastri left Lando enough room to fight back.
    If Lando defended this move to his right there is a big big chance both McLarens wouldnt have finished the race. Once Piastri put himself in there, which is his right even if it isn't sound team strategy, Lando has no choice but to acquiesce unless he was willing to risk hitting his team mate.

    He had the illusion of choice, cause any other choice he could have made was bad for the team.

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    If that was Merc during the Nico/Lewis days 100% they're both out of the race.

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    Lando braked early, too early especially for post lap 1 launch. Oscar braked later. Lando didn't move to cover despite braking early. He knows he's to blame. He expected his teammates to just be free. He was mad at himself and went on to tilt himself the whole race. There was no squeeze by Oscar, plenty of room for Lando to live with his fuck up.

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    I fully expect that to be the last time Lando plays nice with his teammate. I fully believe he runs any other driver wide in that corner, but as soon as he saw papaya he went soft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    I fully expect that to be the last time Lando plays nice with his teammate. I fully believe he runs any other driver wide in that corner, but as soon as he saw papaya he went soft.

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    Good. I was against them team ordering his win away, but I still don't want him to coast to WDC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes View Post
    Good. I was against them team ordering his win away, but I still don't want him to coast to WDC.
    on this we agree

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