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    Also, keep in mind how disruptive Cloud and Bayo were to the competitve scene months and months after release. So much that they neutered Sheik and Diddy pretty hard even after Diddy's Hoo Hah neutering. Joker may upend everything we know come April.

    Lucina and Mario are probably the best characters to get a feel for how the game's physics and mechanics work. After that, fool around with some different types (like Young/Toon Link for projectile characters, Bowser for a heavy, Marth/Shulk for a sword user, etc) and start to go with what feels intuitive.

    I was a Sheik main forever heading into Smash 4. Started playing Toon Link on a whim and it just felt WAY more natural to me and I have not looked back. Just playing around with each character for a little bit on the test stage will give you a good idea what feels 'right'. And don't feel bad about choosing a 'lower tier' character as your main - Toon Link was a solid mid tier in Smash 4 but was also the hard counter to both Cloud and Bayo on a lot of respects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    And don't feel bad about choosing a 'lower tier' character as your
    ^ this. Dedede is one of my mains, and still is despite him being negative tier, i do make him work.

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    Leffen is actually doing a LOT of technical work on his streams now too, if you want someone else to watch instead of Zero.


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    lolllllllll the way you unlock Dedede in WoL is great, love it


    finally smashed Dark Pit into oblivion today and finished my roster... except the Mii fighters, who I guess don't count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    lolllllllll the way you unlock Dedede in WoL is great, love it


    finally smashed Dark Pit into oblivion today and finished my roster... except the Mii fighters, who I guess don't count?
    They are always unlocked if you make one. Or you can unlock the default one in WoL I think

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    Also, went through roster and I think this is what I am missing:

    Dr. Mario
    Mewtwo
    Greninja
    Mii Fighters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    They are always unlocked if you make one. Or you can unlock the default one in WoL I think
    You can. I unlocked the 3 defaults in adventure mode.

    Also 100%ed it last night

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    ah that explains it. not that I'll ever use a Mii anyway when I can use badass characters from my favorite games

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    Mii Brawler isn't too bad. But yeah I need to find some good starters.

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    I beat the dr wily one everyone hated on in my first try. Lucas actually made that fight a joke. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Mii Brawler isn't too bad. But yeah I need to find some good starters.
    yeah but I'm in Smash for the love of video games, I'd never-


    *remembers that there were once Geno and Lloyd Mii costumes*


    -NEVERMIND

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    This game has some fantastic patch notes

    **Adjusted Fighters**
    Donkey Kong, Link, Kirby, Luigi, Ice Climbers, Young Link, Olimar, Toon Link, Villager, Greninja, PAC-MAN, Duck Hunt, and Isabelle

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    Yeah I'm a bit peeved about that. At least give some specifics.

    Also getting used to Richard. Only real complaint is I have a problem smashing instead of tilting.

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    Can always change the right stick/C stick to tilts instead of smashes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitsuki View Post
    I beat the dr wily one everyone hated on in my first try. Lucas actually made that fight a joke. Lol
    Same here.

    Down B for days.

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    I’m likely setting up an arena tonight if anyone wants to join.

    FC: 1387-0575-1508

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    So from what I can gather about the patch notes:

    1. Matchmaking now takes into greater account the rules you preferred. Eye test seems to show a dramatic decrease in FFA matches with items in favor of No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination.
    2. Cannot z-drop held items anymore. Sorry Link, Tink, Yink, Mega, and others.

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    Sent friend request.

    Mine is 8428-8038-2308

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    2. Cannot z-drop held items anymore. Sorry Link, Tink, Yink, Mega, and others.
    FUCK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    2. Cannot z-drop held items anymore. Sorry Link, Tink, Yink, Mega, and others.
    So obvious this was going to get patched, which is why i never bothered with it w/ T.Link. Got patched real fast tho, o well Sheik, Dedede, Lucas, K.Rool, and Incineroar remain untouched. :D

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