Super Smash Bros: Ultimate Geno Edition

[Corrderio]

So any tips for throwing? Seems to be very hit or miss for me on if it connects

[Nitsuki]

So any tips for throwing? Seems to be very hit or miss for me on if it connects

Like in what sense? Where are you having trouble? What controller do you use?

If it’s a GC controller, i mapped my throws to L, since i tend to use the R button for shields either way.

[Kirin]

Throwing characters or items?

Items becomes a learned reflex, honestly. I'm not sure if anyone has deep dived active hitboxes on items because their lack of use in competitive play.

Character specific items (Pac Man arcade items, Link bombs, etc) are generally specific to the character and all have unique properties. Even bombs between Link, Toon Link, and Young Link all have different properties/damage/knockback.

If you're grabbing a character, that also varies between character for grab box and delay on that grab. There was a universal cooldown on regrab in Smash 4 (~2 seconds), and it seems to be the same window in Ultimate. Long story short, there was tech in Smash 4 (and so far still in Ultimate) that allowed to to pivot grab slower but with a much larger reach or faster frame wise but with a shorter range. Characters with high speed (Ness, Sonic) get the most benefit, while other grabs (like Toon Link, Zero Suit Samus) with range generally fare better being used normally.

That all said, thank god Toon Link's grab delay is heavily reduced. Not sure if ZSS or Samus received the same change, but holy moly it is so much better for Toon Link to whiff on a grab and avoid punish now.

[Nitsuki]

That all said, thank god Toon Link's grab delay is heavily reduced. Not sure if ZSS or Samus received the same change, but holy moly it is so much better for Toon Link to whiff on a grab and avoid punish now.

ZSS and Samus feel the same. Until i see some crazy zss tech at a tournament, like the ones today, i’m dropping zss. She’s way too unsafe of a character to use, and her throw combos bring completely gone, makes her not as good as before.

[nivlakian]

Finally finished WoL last night. I found it pretty fun and far longer than I expected.

So from what I can gather about the patch notes:

1. Matchmaking now takes into greater account the rules you preferred. Eye test seems to show a dramatic decrease in FFA matches with items in favor of No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination.
2. Cannot z-drop held items anymore. Sorry Link, Tink, Yink, Mega, and others.

I tried it with Mega Man, Link, Tink, and Yink just now. I'm still able to Z-drop the metal blade and bombs in training mode unless I'm misunderstanding something.

[Nitsuki]

NEC is this weekend, so it’ll be a good insight on smash ult tournament play. Very likely will be vgbootcamp streaming or sp00ky

[Kirin]

I tried it with Mega Man, Link, Tink, and Yink just now. I'm still able to Z-drop the metal blade and bombs in training mode unless I'm misunderstanding something.

Should have clarified, it applies to Z-drop while being grabbed.

Z-Drop as an action is working perfectly fine. Z-Drop while being grabbed no longer works.

NEC is this weekend, so it’ll be a good insight on smash ult tournament play. Very likely will be vgbootcamp streaming or sp00ky

Has there been an arrival at tourney rules for Ultimate? I really hope 3 stock 1v1, 4 stock 2v2 becomes norm.

[Nitsuki]

Should have clarified, it applies to Z-drop while being grabbed.

Z-Drop as an action is working perfectly fine. Z-Drop while being grabbed no longer works.



Has there been an arrival at tourney rules for Ultimate? I really hope 3 stock 1v1, 4 stock 2v2 becomes norm.

I’m watching zer0 and armada stream right now and they’re both doing 3 stock 1v1 so that seems like it’ll be the norm with a 7 min time limit.

[Corrderio]

Like in what sense? Where are you having trouble? What controller do you use?

If it’s a GC controller, i mapped my throws to L, since i tend to use the R button for shields either way.

Pro controller and throwing others in general. I feel like I whiff too much

[Nitsuki]

Pro controller and throwing others in general. I feel like I whiff too much

Throw range is something you should learn, not sure who you’re maining, but try to learn that by doing dash+grab, max range grab, and grab opponent landing in the lab, that should give you a better feel. If it makes it easier, on a pro controller, map one of your jump buttons to grab, or a shield button to grab as well to make your controls feel more comfortable.

[LinktheDeme]

What's the point of local wireless in smash? Wouldnt you just want to play on the same console? Or is this for those undocked situations?

[Corrderio]

Throw range is something you should learn, not sure who you’re maining, but try to learn that by doing dash+grab, max range grab, and grab opponent landing in the lab, that should give you a better feel. If it makes it easier, on a pro controller, map one of your jump buttons to grab, or a shield button to grab as well to make your controls feel more comfortable.

Mostly screwing with Belmonts til I can get used to them

[Seravi Edalborez]

What's the point of local wireless in smash? Wouldnt you just want to play on the same console? Or is this for those undocked situations?

Undocked, and maybe a bit of that old LAN party feel.

[Elcura]

What's the point of local wireless in smash? Wouldnt you just want to play on the same console? Or is this for those undocked situations?

Because you have all characters and they have 15? Stuff like that.

[Nitsuki]

Have a room up for friends only, join up. Add me if you haven’t yet.

[Tyrath]

Beat WoL, ending truly was badass.

My completion says 99.67% though, wtf did I miss >_<

[Drai]

Beat WoL, ending truly was badass.

My completion says 99.67% though, wtf did I miss >_<

Spoiler: show

Have to beat the solo Dharkon and solo Galeem fights for that last bit, fucked with my head at first also, each of those fights have a bad ending cutscene.

[Tyrath]

Ooh, thanks. I'll try that

[Corrderio]

Spoiler: show

Have to beat the solo Dharkon and solo Galeem fights for that last bit, fucked with my head at first also, each of those fights have a bad ending cutscene.

Spoiler: show

Holy shit how dark the ending is for the solo Galeem is. Never thought I'd see Mario keel over like that.

Tried online and kind of mixed on feelings. SOme matches are fine others are choppy AF due to the lag.

[Kirin]

I'm at 611 spaces out of 615, the 2 spaces mentioned in the last few posts bring me to 613. All the dungeons have stars next to them. Dont even know where to look.