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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Also any advice on Isabelle? She seems to have extremely short range minus her fishing rod.
    Her Nair and Bair are the same slingshot as villager, so can use it for zoning, knock people off stage and either try to keep them away with the slingshot or if possible chase them off stage and try to fishing rod them further away, especially if they don’t have great recovery options.

    Her Gynoid traps are decent but honestly too easy to avoid, her recovery is good and item pocket is super situational but can be useful.

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    I’m actually enjoying daisy

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    I'm actually big on Palutena right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drai View Post
    Her Nair and Bair are the same slingshot as villager, so can use it for zoning, knock people off stage and either try to keep them away with the slingshot or if possible chase them off stage and try to fishing rod them further away, especially if they don’t have great recovery options.

    Her Gynoid traps are decent but honestly too easy to avoid, her recovery is good and item pocket is super situational but can be useful.
    What would you say some of her best knock offs are? I'm guessing the fishing rod since anything else seems like you need to be dangerously close to an opponent to connect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    They do it on purpose. This is the company that released a 3DS without a fucking charger. Sold separately. They know exactly what they're doing.
    My 3DS came with a charger and so did everyone else I knew who had a 3DS..so I never understood these claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    I'm actually big on Palutena right now.
    As am I, granted I didn't play 4 which I heard she was terrible in, she has a nice feel in this game once you get some of the combos mastered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    My 3DS came with a charger and so did everyone else I knew who had a 3DS..so I never understood these claims.
    Early releases of the 3DS XL when it first came out didn't have a charger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Early releases of the 3DS XL when it first came out didn't have a charger.
    Ah I see..yeah should have specified because that was confusing when I never had to buy a charger separately in the 7 years I had my 3ds haha, since most people I know (including myself) got the 3DS on launch where the argument of very little to no games is true aside the ambassador program (still feels odd having GBA games on my 3DS when no other version had it.) I always thought the claim were the charger was faulty or something.

    Considering a few fighters seem to be built around a similar system, I wonder if Joker would kinda build around the arts system shulk uses in a way for Personas or if they'd go all in to incorporate his main.

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    I'm curious what his ultimate will be. An all out attack with the rest of the phantom thieves or "PILLAGE THEM, SATANAEL!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I'm curious what his ultimate will be. An all out attack with the rest of the phantom thieves or "PILLAGE THEM, SATANAEL!"
    Rumor is final smash will be an All out attack and if it’s the final kill, a special win pose screen like in P5 when you kill the last enemy.

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    First off I wrote Nair and Bair for slingshot, it’s Fair and Bair, my bad.

    Honestly have to get a bit close to knock them off, unless you get really good at doing her dash attack and hitting them with the flower pot, it’s nice actually if you’re above them on a platform the pot can actually travel a good distance, but I like to get up in peoples face, approach with Short hop Fairs and then act accordingly to what they try to do, her Nair is great cause it hits almost 360 degrees around her, I like to play her as a more aerial fighter but I’ve seen others stay more grounded and be goddamned wizards with the fishing rods.

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    I think all Europe 3ds don’t come with a charger

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    Some parameters for Joker and Piranha Plant have been datamined. Plant has been in the files since release, Joker was added in the first update.

    Plant: 1.72 speed, 112 weight, cannot wall jump.
    Joker: 2.21 speed, 89 weight, can wall jump.

    There is a 3rd fighter tagged as "Brave" in the files with 1.74 speed, 101 weight, and can wall jump. I've read that in Japan with relation to the Dragon Quest series, 'Hero' and 'Brave' share the same romanji of 'Yusha'.

    For comparison:
    Sonic is at 3.85 speed
    Incineroar is at 1.18 speed.
    2nd fastest C.Falcon is 2.52 speed.

    Pichu is 62 weight
    Bowser is 135


    Aside, does anyone have issues staying in "Elite Smash" and has the input lag gotten any better for anyone? I am having a terrible time navigating Battlefield platforms with Toon Link with how his speed functions and stops after actions. Palutena is moving so much more smoothly for me.

    Also, frak trying to approach Ice Climbers as Tink. Talk about hell on earth. It has more to do with how Toon Link's boomerang functions with relation to reflects and other projectiles. I'm having to mentally train myself that for some reason it maintains an active hitbox on reflect and doesn't function as it did in Smash 4.

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    Spirit battles involving an enemy Ness with a PSI power buff can fuck off. PK Fire will melt you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Spirit battles involving an enemy Ness with a PSI power buff can fuck off. PK Fire will melt you.
    Definitely, I love the spam ones because of franklin badge though lol.

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    Anyway for speculation on Erdrick. Do the DQ games take place in the same universe or is it random? Curious how often Erdrick is referenced in later games.

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    He isn't really referenced in the later games except as a series trope (i.e. Erdrick's Sword, etc.) however the first three games all revolve around his legacy, and he is the same person in each game (unlike, say, Cid in Final Fantasy). he's also obviously in DQ Builders since it takes place in the Alefgard world and probably some of the other spin-offs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Anyway for speculation on Erdrick. Do the DQ games take place in the same universe or is it random? Curious how often Erdrick is referenced in later games.
    I believe 1-3 and 11 all take place in the same world. I think the rest are not.

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    Thanks. But yeah even without Erdrick I'm fairly certain there is a SE rep in the pipes. Maybe I'm looking into it too much but one thing I find odd is Cloud is the only fighter in the game with no spirits associated with the franchise. That just seems really strange to me.

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    Screen Rant posted an article regarding the DLC characters being leaked. The roster will be:

    Joker
    Erdrick
    Ryu Hayabusa
    Minecraft Steve
    Doomguy

    Sauce: https://screenrant.com/super-smash-b...acters-leaked/

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    I still have a hard time believing Nintendo execs sat down to brainstorm Smash DLC and ended up having a list with Joker, Ryu Hayabusa, Doom Guy, and Steve.

    Not buying it.

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