Predisent Donald J. Trump: Episode V: Trade Wars Strike Back: Kanye's Opioid Addiction Support Group

[Fiye]

Might be something to watch

[Talint]

the wars were extremely expensive at a time we could ill-afford it but the primary drivers of the national debt were/are the recession and entitlement spending,

*FART NOISE*

particularly entitlement spending impacted by the explosion of healthcare costs and demographic shifts.

for example the heaviest days of fighting in the Middle East were between 2001-2008 (invasion of Afghanistan to the beginning of post-surge withdrawals) and the national debt went from 56% to 62% as share of GDP. in the 10 years since, as war expenditures have fallen drastically, it has increased to 106%, and is scheduled to increase by about 50% over the next 10 (going from $20 trillion to $30 trillion) even in the absence of another major war or recession.

Also the Bush tax cuts were a thing. We went to war while lowering taxes and refunded a surplus.

Also Obama made the Bush tax cuts permanent.

But sure. Entitlement spending is the problem.

[Byrthnoth]

Entitlement spending is A problem, primarily because we implement all of our programs in the dumbest way possible.

Bush Tax cuts (which were not all made permanent) were also A problem.

Iraqistan and the ensuing multinational antiterrorism effort + associated support bloat is A problem. AG makes the point that spending on Iraqistan has dropped, but I would go further argue that those conflicts were actually relatively cheap. If you look at a chart of in military spending and draw a line between 2001 and 2012 and assume everything above the line is spent on the conflicts, you will see they cost maybe 2 trillion dollars. That is a lot of money, but it is dwarfed by the ~10 trillion below the line. Consultants estimate a third of that is wasted, which would be three random incursions in the middle east.


Our problem isn't the services we offer or our national security #squadgoals or our progressive tax policies. The problem is that we do everything in the dumbest way and our beaurocracy trips over itself to trip over itself.

[Zetanio]

We are really good at spending money and really bad at nearly everything else.

[Day]

We are really good at spending money and really bad at nearly everything else.

-all of my exes

[Moss]

We are really good at spending money and really bad at nearly everything else.

Sounds like Trump was a natural choice then

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[Zetanio]

Sounds like Trump was a natural choice then

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Big if true.

[6souls]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43658331

Pruitt next. WH officials want him out despite Trump still holding a fond opinion of his work.

[Xno Kappa]

These motherfuckas are spending 30-70k on fucking dining tables. How is the “fiscally conservative” base not losing their fucking minds over this?

[Zealot]

Owning libs, that's how.

Alternately, Hillary would be worse.

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[Yuri-G]

Owning libs, that's how.

Alternately, Hillary would be worse.

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also the "no we didn't" defense


(protip: that's the entire defense)

[6souls]

http://thehill.com/homenews/381899-s...-under-the-bus

Actually, Cohen next. Trump denies knowing about the payoff for Stormy thus breaking a non-disclosure agreement.

[zoobernut]

http://thehill.com/homenews/381899-s...-under-the-bus

Actually, Cohen next. Trump denies knowing about the payoff for Stormy thus breaking a non-disclosure agreement.

Wouldn't it be grand if this started a battle between Trump and Cohen which led to Cohen releasing proof that Trump asked him to pay her off? I imagine if Cohen is smart he would have kept proof.

[6souls]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/05/news...war/index.html

Trump investigating the possibility of adding an additional $100b worth of tariffs against China.

[6souls]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43658331

Pruitt next. WH officials want him out despite Trump still holding a fond opinion of his work.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...-pruitt-swamp/

Fox News calls out Pruitt on his bullshit. Pruitt is shocked, naturally.

[Yuri-G]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/05/news...war/index.html

Trump investigating the possibility of adding an additional $100b worth of tariffs against China.

this has me pretty well unseated. I don't think we would win a trade war with China...

[Byrthnoth]

Owning libs, that's how.

Alternately, Hillary would be worse.

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You forgot gorsuck

[Fiye]

Wouldn't it be grand if this started a battle between Trump and Cohen which led to Cohen releasing proof that Trump asked him to pay her off? I imagine if Cohen is smart he would have kept proof.

Likely Cohen just did this of his own volution with a pre-determined agreement if Trump were to ever get into shit much like how an actual mafia might be ran.

[Zetanio]

this has me pretty well unseated. I don't think we would win a trade war with China...

Playing that game at all is the stupid part. Not whether we would win or not.

[Fiye]