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[Zealot]

I have a cousin who works for Amazon, doing something in IT/programming, and he makes in the $230-260k area. I still don't shop at Amazon.

I am waiting to see if any changes are made with Bezos stepping down, but I'm a very pro-union person and odds are my stance isn't going to change.

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Without a degree, I meant to say.

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[Xno Kappa]

You’re Gucci if you’re making $150k in the DMV area.

[Meresgi]

150k is a ton of money, and earning that without a degree is extremely rare.

Not in that area and not for that position there. 150k is good in parts of the DMV but around Tysons/DC/NOVA that's just decent income, nothing crazy amazing. That's totally liveable wage but you're living outside the city and having to do at least 1-2hr commute most likely or shelling out a chunk of that for rent unless you have roomates. Depending though if you got lucky and bought a house a few years ago then should be good mortgage wise.

A degree may help for IT/Sys Admin/data infrastructure type job. But certs are way more powerful than a standard college degree in that field.

Basically this, CISSP and Sec+ and you're gonna be making bare minimum 150k at a government job. Private sector gonna boost you way more. My degree is basically just for contract bids, half the people I work with around DMV don't have degrees since they are mostly useless in IT/cybersec areas unless it's more management/policy and even then not required.

[AoE]

Making 150k anywhere in the country is safe. Stop playing.

[Meresgi]

Guess i'm more trying to say that's not crazy impressive or a result of Amazon being super awesome as "no degree and making 100-150k/yr" is pretty common almost everywhere in DMV area when it comes to IT stuff. 200k+ is pretty average when it comes to cybersec positions with the right certs

[Roranora]

can i pls has six figgies let's have a career change

[NynJa]

Making 150k anywhere in the country is safe. Stop playing.

I thought 150k is below the poverty line in certain parts of Cali?

[Tokitoki]

I thought 150k is below the poverty line in certain parts of Cali?

Probably is.

My cousin and her husband just bought a $4M home in the Redwood City/Palo Alto area. I couldn't even imagine. She's two years younger than me.

[AoE]

There's more qualified people to answer that but my point is that you're entitled to atleast live in a relatively safe neighborhood when you start pushing 6 figures.

If you're talking owning a house then the game shifts a bit.

[synistar]

Based on HUD figures for the Bay Area, an annual income of $110k for a family of four is considered low income.

[archibaldcrane]

I thought 150k is below the poverty line in certain parts of Cali?

If you have like 10 kids in SF, not for a normal family.

[Meresgi]

I thought 150k is below the poverty line in certain parts of Cali?

San Francisco: Median household income $96,265, middle-class income range $64,177 to $192,530.
Oakland: Median household income $63,251, middle-class income range $42,167 to $126,502.
San Jose: Median household income $96,662, middle-class income range $64,441 to $193,324.
Fremont: Median household income $122,191, middle-class income range $81,461 to $244,382.

Just snagged that from a random article.

$150k/yr will get you a place south of Baltimore in Elkridge area, Columbia too depending on the area of Columbia, Laurel and Sterling VA and areas of Gaithersburg. Bethesda, Rockville, Tysons and Arlington are gonna be steeper for something outside of an apartment at $150k/yr since houses there are at least 800k-1.3mil starting in a lot of "good" sections. Most of the areas are pretty shit commutes if you're going down to Crystal City or DC proper, fuck 495 and fucking fuck 295. Sterling wasn't too bad since you're going against the flow for a chunk of it but still it's like 45min commute some days and the toll express can sometimes be like $15-25

[Byrthnoth]

If you want to own a single family detached house, you are looking at a mil in the easy commute to CC area. However, dual income with one at 150k will make that possible with a 30yr mortgage. Going to be rough at first because confirming jumbos max out at ~800k, so you need to go into it with about 200k savings.

More realistically, there is a shitton of rental availability around here. Double up and you are looking at ~1k/mo rental.

[Malithar]

I couldn't imagine living in some of those areas. I'm in a decent enough (little to no crime, good looking yards/houses) suburb in Kentucky that's 15~ minutes from work with anything I could need shopping wise 5-10 minutes away, owning a home and car on $50~60k a year.

Think Buffy got some flack for being with Amazon. Shit'll always roll down hill to those on the bottom, but having the framework and opportunities to get out of that position has to be something lauded. I'm in the banking sector and my company has a ton of opportunity for self making your career instead of sitting at the bottom dealing with the shit tier nonsense for the rest of your days.

[Meresgi]

Oh yeah if you have that potential to climb out, that should be lauded. But I think it's way way harder and saying "oh I know 1 or 2 who did it" isn't really good to go on. People who do it are amazing given how hard Amazon works you and how fucking browbeat you are.

[Ayn]

There's more qualified people to answer that but my point is that you're entitled to atleast live in a relatively safe neighborhood when you start pushing 6 figures.

If you're talking owning a house then the game shifts a bit.

Speaking as someone that is more qualified to answer, Ise's spot on, particularly with the second part.

If you're trying to own a SFH that isn't one step short of being condemned, better hope you can cash in on some generational wealth or RSU's. Otherwise you can likely rent in most non-shitty areas relatively ok if you're not a complete idiot with money.

That said, a lot of people in northern CA, particularly about the Bay, have some really warped ideas about money relative to the rest of the country. Knew someone years back that complained about money being tight despite a good salary. Pointed out "Uh, aren't you basically trying to travel somewhere every other weekend? Maybe that's eating into it?"

Also probably doesn't help that I grew up outside of the area, so when people tell me how much they spent on a SFH I'm like "Where's the rest of it".

[Andalusian girls]

https://twitter.com/Don_Zeko/status/1444669026756661255

[Qalbert]

https://twitter.com/briankrebs/statu...77617426718725

[zoobernut]

Lol that is hilarious. There is a saying in IT "It's always DNS" so this is unbelievably funny.

[NynJa]

Meanwhile, antivaxers sitting on their toilets worldwide are unable to get their research done.