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    Orange Man is back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoat View Post
    Orange Man is back
    He got reinstated but most likely will not be posting there. He’s rather post on “Troth Cential” as he called it since that is his platform.

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    No way he resists Twitter. His ego simply won't permit that.

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    Best way to promote his platform. "Come see my Truths on Truth Social"

    Easiest ad campaign ever.

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    Life at Twitter before Elon took over. They quit because they'd have to actually work lol. This is probably why Twitter was operating at a deficit or whatever.

    "I did some yoga, got a 5 star lunch, played fooseball to unwind (from my one meeting), had a nap, drank some wiiine...on taaaaap". Thats not fucking work.
    https://twitter.com/AF632/status/1594115540645076993

    Dont mis-interpret as me advocating for Elon's batshit insane "work 60 hours work weeks high intensity for minimum wage", cause I'm not.

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    You're watching that video wrong IMO. She tours the amenities and makes it sound awesome, but you'll note that the only amenities getting used were the coffee machine and cafeteria. All the rest were completely empty.

    This is how it has been at the tech companies. They build these amenities and put out videos (like this, although idk if this was actually produced by Twitter HR) to try and get people to work there, but in practice everyone just eats and drinks coffee. I have been laughing about this genre of video for years now.

    That said, maybe things are going to change and they won't pretend to have amenities anymore.

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    Tech HR relations are weird because of the Mythical Man-Month concept. Programmers take a proposed feature, refine it so it is specific/viable enough that it can be implemented, choose an implementation, write the code to implement it, and then test that it worked / iterate if it didn't. People think of only the code writing step, but it's actually a minority of the time. Most of the time is really in the "proposed feature -> viable design" section of the work.

    If you have someone that is familiar with the project getting onboarded onto your specific feature, you only need to review what exactly you're doing, how you're doing it, and what you've tried, which they may already know if you have regular group meetings. If you try to onboard someone from a different team, holy shit are you in for a ride. Going in blind, it typically takes me a few hours to understand exactly what is being done by a microservice that I've never seen before (the logic is expressed in the code), but it may take me a year to understand why it's doing it and what parts of its functionality are even used. If you don't understand why something is doing what it's doing, then you can only add to it both conceptually (adding features without touching old ones) and literally (old code stays, new code is added). This leads to a terrible code base with redundant features and increases the cost of adding the next feature (more rationale/code to understand.) So if your company has high churn, your code base will very likely be a complete mess that's expensive to develop and you're on the fast track to not being a tech company anymore.

    Also, there is no overtime pay for salaried employees and comp time is a funny funny joke that doesn't actually happen anywhere I've heard about.

    This creates two incentives:
    1. You want your high-value, salaried programmers to be working 24/7 because adding another programmer would decrease their valuable project's velocity
    2. You want any new programmers to be as high quality as you possibly can because you're going to be paying a huge cost to onboard them and will potentially be stuck with them for a long time

    Thus, someone (yahoo? google? facebook? I forget who started this trend) thought it was a good idea to have amenities to recruit/retain the programmers and try to get them to stay at work longer. As I mentioned above, the amenities (outside of food and coffee) probably don't work as intended. Also, I know in practice there are places where it's seen as a professional demerit if you actually use the amenities because it shows that you have unscheduled moments in your day.


    Some of the companies that cut staff this month (like Amazon) were really just making business decisions about where they want to focus their effort in the future and were cutting entire teams, which makes sense. Elon's approach was a bold strategy, Cotton, and we'll see if it pays off for him. He's probably right that they were overstaffed (maybe even by 50%), but random/elective cuts are the only thing worse than flat cuts for a software company.

    Edit: y'all have no idea how many times in the last year I could see code sending the metrics that I wanted out of the microservice to some dashboard but could not for the life of me find the dashboard.

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    It's also interesting the idea that "Work is a place you go to suffer" is such a socially ingrained idea that what workplaces out there go the extra mile for their employees seems totally alien. So, while it may not be realistic for every job to build their own gym and such, it doesn't mean deals can't be made with a related service for severe discounts or even freebies. Of course, this also runs counter to capitalism's credo of maximum profit, no matter how many folks get bodied in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post

    and comp time is a funny funny
    When I swapped companies due to contract renewal and old company losing it, they wouldn't pay me what I wanted so they said they would supplement it via approved OT across the board since I work a dozen missions and didn't want to drop any, so would rather work a few hours extra and charge out to them to keep them up and running and help out.

    Just received notice that company is upset about this and while they haven't raised much of an issue, they want me to start accruing comp time before i'm allowed OT. Fuck that noise. Honeywell used to have a policy where your first 3 hrs after 40 were treated as "self development time"....so therefore everyone just charged their OT hrs + 3 to make up for this stupid policy. I'll do the same with comp time, fuck that noise. I'm not putting hours into a pool I may never draw from and that gets deleted every year instead of paid out to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    When I swapped companies due to contract renewal and old company losing it, they wouldn't pay me what I wanted so they said they would supplement it via approved OT across the board since I work a dozen missions and didn't want to drop any, so would rather work a few hours extra and charge out to them to keep them up and running and help out.

    Just received notice that company is upset about this and while they haven't raised much of an issue, they want me to start accruing comp time before i'm allowed OT. Fuck that noise. Honeywell used to have a policy where your first 3 hrs after 40 were treated as "self development time"....so therefore everyone just charged their OT hrs + 3 to make up for this stupid policy. I'll do the same with comp time, fuck that noise. I'm not putting hours into a pool I may never draw from and that gets deleted every year instead of paid out to me.
    My old firm had a similar policy - OT billable hours can be accrued as "reserve time" to be used later, like a half-day Friday (i.e. work 4hrs, and dip into the reserve time for the other 4hrs). However, if we opted not to claim it as reserve time we still got the OT pay (1x rate though). Any reserve time remaining at the end of the fiscal year got paid out. It was a great system imo.

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    I have worked for startups and recently public companies so far, as have most of my network (or Amazon) and none of the startups have invested the effort to track comp time (or even work time) formally. They ask you to do things and you do them or you don't, and how hard you push to fill up your day if you are more efficient than they expect determines how much work you get in the future and their opinion of you. Keep doing more work, they will keep giving you more work (and maybe raises). Eventually you are unreplaceable, which is bad because then you can't take vacation by any name.

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    Elon really showing off that big brain.

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    Wtf is that even

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    Twitter's version of a one hit wonder

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    https://twitter.com/cbouzy/status/15...hSv_33CMw&s=19

    edit: Apple never posted a Tweet. But would be something if the Apple App store pulls Twitter off its platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallister View Post
    Wtf is that even
    the greatest tweeter in history
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    Twitter's version of a one hit wonder
    you shut your whore mouth

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    Twitter is shadowbanning posts from other social networks. Hive is an alternate Twitter platform that is trending today and all of their main account posts cannot be found unless you know the url to their account.

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    Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, returned to Twitter over the weekend, writing "shalom" in one of his first posts since appearing to take a break from the platform after his account was restricted over antisemitic remarks.

    Shalom is the Hebrew word for "peace," and is also used as a greeting or parting salutation. The rapper posted it along with a smiley face Sunday in a tweet.

    Earlier he had tweeted out: "Testing Testing Seeing if my Twitter is unblocked."

    "Don't kill what ye hate," Twitter's new owner, Elon Musk, replied. "Save what ye love."
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...arks-rcna58116

    I don't know how it can get any stupider at this point.





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