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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Shut up
    Why? It’s a tale as old as time, marginalized groups cry about being marginalized, then turn around and treat another group they perceive to be below them on the ladder just as viciously. I’m aware that people of all stripes are assholes to service workers, but that doesn’t let the militant pronoun police off the hook for their behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyltia View Post
    Why? It’s a tale as old as time, marginalized groups cry about being marginalized, then turn around and treat another group they perceive to be below them on the ladder just as viciously. I’m aware that people of all stripes are assholes to service workers, but that doesn’t let the militant pronoun police off the hook for their behavior.
    Where the hell is the god damned Like button?!

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    While I agree that service industry workers get treated like shit, you trying to turn that into a gotcha moment for an actual marginalized group is gross as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    While I agree that service industry workers get treated like shit, you trying to turn that into a gotcha moment for an actual marginalized group is gross as fuck.
    What gotcha? They weren't going for a gotcha.
    EDIT: Think i misinterpreted this as a response to the post directly above it? Quotes are helpful.

    Maybe service industry workers don't want to be co-opt into another group's struggle either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    While I agree that service industry workers get treated like shit, you trying to turn that into a gotcha moment for an actual marginalized group is gross as fuck.
    Firstly, if you don’t think service economy employees are a marginalized group you need to check your privilege.

    Second, I am not making statements about trans people in general, I am referring to a very specific set of people, trans or no, that use pronouns and the like as a cudgel. They are actively hurting the cause of trans rights by turning away hearts and minds, and any serious ally would acknowledge this rather than whitewash it as “well everyone is shit to this group of people so they get a pass”

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    yall keep saying trans but don't trans people use binary gender pronouns or am i stupid, isn't that what they are transitioning to, the other binary gender?

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    venn diagram with trans and non-binary, please

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    just 2 disconnected circles i think

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    how far apart are they? like nice titties or weird titties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyltia View Post
    Firstly, if you don’t think service economy employees are a marginalized group you need to check your privilege.

    Second, I am not making statements about trans people in general, I am referring to a very specific set of people, trans or no, that use pronouns and the like as a cudgel. They are actively hurting the cause of trans rights by turning away hearts and minds, and any serious ally would acknowledge this rather than whitewash it as “well everyone is shit to this group of people so they get a pass”
    This is trolling and became super apparent after the first paragraph. Also if your support is conditionally based off being treated well by anyone that subscribes to a specific ideology then you weren't truly down for the cause in the first place. It's like saying all black or gay people need to act in a way I see fit for them to be deemed as people or have my respect and if one gets out of line, that ruins it for all of you.

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    Maybe like a Dillion Harper with a slight uniboob look

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    This is trolling and became super apparent after the first paragraph. Also if your support is conditionally based off being treated well by anyone that subscribes to a specific ideology then you weren't truly down for the cause in the first place. It's like saying all black or gay people need to act in a way I see fit for them to be deemed as people or have my respect and if one gets out of line, that ruins it for all of you.
    Nah these people they are describing are hella annoying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    This is trolling and became super apparent after the first paragraph. Also if your support is conditionally based off being treated well by anyone that subscribes to a specific ideology then you weren't truly down for the cause in the first place. It's like saying all black or gay people need to act in a way I see fit for them to be deemed as people or have my respect and if one gets out of line, that ruins it for all of you.
    These are my sincerely-held beliefs, thank you. I spent 20 years in various positions of the service economy and saw all manner of degradation and predation upon my coworkers. I, as a straight white man, was spared from the truly worst of it, and though I was finally able to get out, I will always defend those still in the trenches against anyone.

    Your argument is against a straw man, besides. “Please don’t falsely accuse me of insulting you, then go directly to my boss and attempt to get me fired, which would likely result in me being homeless” is an extremely low bar to clear for every member of society, and it is eminently reasonable to hold everyone to that standard, trans or no.

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    i tell ya, tip culture is where it all went wrong mates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyltia View Post
    Firstly, if you don’t think service economy employees are a marginalized group you need to check your privilege.

    Second, I am not making statements about trans people in general, I am referring to a very specific set of people, trans or no, that use pronouns and the like as a cudgel. They are actively hurting the cause of trans rights by turning away hearts and minds, and any serious ally would acknowledge this rather than whitewash it as “well everyone is shit to this group of people so they get a pass”
    It's sometimes impossible to not make a statement about the trans community online because undoubtedly one has to come in and make everything about them, related or not. It be like if I complained about "the fucking bourgeoisie, guys" at any possible turn. I don't because I at least have a little more sense than that.

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    Won't somebody please think of the wait staff!

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    can't call them that might be misconstrued as fatshaming

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    Imagine just being able to change your race/identity like you can for your job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    Imagine just being able to change your race/identity like you can for your job.
    I’ve applied to hundreds of races and identities and never get a call back.

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