Planes, Trains, & Automobiles: Purchase of a Ticket Does Not Guarantee Transportation

[Cail]

Wild

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.c...u-jaiswal/amp/

not sure i want to click on that

[Melena]

not sure i want to click on that

You really don't see anything gruesome. Just screams and some flames at the end

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[Cail]

You really don't see anything gruesome. Just screams and some flames at the end

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the screams would get me more than anything

[archibaldcrane]

Volume 0

[kuronosan]

not sure i want to click on that

With volume 0 you just see level flight then suddenly bunch of phone in hand stuff then red then the phone sitting by flame and what looks like rebar.

[Athas]

I mean, no matter your volume setting you're still watching the last moments off 72 people.

[Gredival]

https://www.teslarati.com/wyoming-ph...-evs-2035/amp/

Wyoming banning EVs in response to California banning gas cars because the oil industry needs help

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[NynJa]

I'm just curious...how does one do a cross-country drive in an EV vehicle? Are you doing a 35 minute pit stop every hour?

[Athas]

Seems to depend if there are available superchargers.

[Melena]

I'm just curious...how does one do a cross-country drive in an EV vehicle? Are you doing a 35 minute pit stop every hour?

Friend of mine did California to Jacksonville in his Model S. Basically every three hours or so would hit a super charging station for a 20 minute piss/stretch/snack break while it charges.

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[Uzor]

I'm just curious...how does one do a cross-country drive in an EV vehicle? Are you doing a 35 minute pit stop every hour?

Why would it be every hour? That would be super inconvenient.

Maybe super old models, but modern EV last for much longer than an hour. Most modern vehicles can drive about 200 or so miles on a single charge.

[NynJa]

How long does it take to charge for those 200 miles? For my reference, 200 miles = 320 km...cause 200 miles means fuck all to me lol

[synistar]

Tesla Superchargers is about 15-30 minutes from 15% to 80% (200 miles). It's a bit longer if it's sub-freezing temperatures and the battery needs to be heated.

[TummieGaruda]

How long does it take to charge for those 200 miles? For my reference, 200 miles = 320 km...cause 200 miles means fuck all to me lol

From my experiences, it will vary depending on how cold it is and if you pre-condition the battery before getting to the supercharger. When you select a supercharger on your route, it will automatically start this process which preps the battery to charge faster. It also depends on if you are using an urban supercharger (72 kW), V2 Superchargers (150 kW), or V3 Superchargers (250 kW). Most of the time you will see 250 kW chargers which are the fastest currently. When you are at a low state of charge (50 miles remaining or less), V3 superchargers can hit a charging rate of 1000 miles an hour. (1610 km/hr) However, this speed will taper off as the battery gets full and you end up dropping down to about 500 miles/hr (804 km/hr) charge rate when you are at 50% charge. Usually when my family and I go to Vegas, we stop in Baker to get snacks and use the restroom. Usually a 10-20 min stop depending and by the time we are finished, we have 200 miles of range (320km). I've done the trip many times to know realistically, we only need about 100 miles to get into Vegas so we often cut the charging short. Besides, one of the best things is that when you go to certain hotels, they charge your car free so I usually try to get into the hotel with a low charge.

Also, at least in Teslas, their routing software is pretty good. So when you put in a destination far away, it maps out all of the supercharging stops for you and how long you should charge for at each stop to max effeciency in time. There is also a website called abetterrouteplanner that does the same thing but it tends to be slightly better than what Tesla has in the cars.

[archibaldcrane]

I'm just curious...how does one do a cross-country drive in an EV vehicle? Are you doing a 35 minute pit stop every hour?

In a Tesla it involves ~30-40 minute supercharging stops every ~3 hours - which certainly slows you down if you are trying to do it for non-recreational purposes but it is doable. In a non-Tesla it would be extremely annoying to the extent that people only do it for the experience, not because they need to get somewhere.

[archibaldcrane]

Here's an article about a guy driving a Model 3 from LA to NYC (2860 miles) in 50 hours and 16 minutes. (57 mph including charging time, pretty good)

https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/17...urs-16-minutes

[archibaldcrane]

Apparently it's been done in 42 hours now.


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/r...rs-172957.html

[synistar]

Or this video

[TummieGaruda]

In a Tesla it involves ~30-40 minute supercharging stops every ~3 hours - which certainly slows you down if you are trying to do it for non-recreational purposes but it is doable. In a non-Tesla it would be extremely annoying to the extent that people only do it for the experience, not because they need to get somewhere.

Realistically when you are charging, because of the charge taper, you aren't completely filling up your battery because it would take too long. From 25 miles to 200 is 15-20 minutes, but from 200 to 300 miles is going to be half an hour or more, especially when getting close to the cap. Here's an example for a trip from Los Angeles to San Francisco:

Start in LA at 100% charge on a Model 3 with 315 max miles
Stop #1 Coalinga Charger arriving with 47 miles of range. Charge for 6 minutes and leave with 132 miles of range left.
Stop #2 Santa Nella charger arriving with 31 miles left. Charge for 13 minutes and leave with 176 miles of range left
Arrive in San Francisco with 31 miles of range. Charge at your destination overnight.

384 Miles, 19 minutes charging, and 6 hours driving which is close to the average of 20 minutes charging for every 400 miles.

Edit: You can also do the same route, but just do one stop in Coalinga and charge for 30 minutes which makes the trip 2 min longer.

[Meresgi]

I'm just curious...how does one do a cross-country drive in an EV vehicle? Are you doing a 35 minute pit stop every hour?

lol wut every hour? My Ioniq5 gets around 290mi per charge and charges 20% to 80% in 15mins. It's really not that bad. Did roadtrip from San Diego to Albuquerque through some desolate sections of AZ/NM and only added about 2hr to total trip to charge. Plus gives me a reason to get up, walk around and stretch legs, get food that isn't just pure greasy fast food (Since a lot of the chargers are outside Targets or close to pretty decent food).

Still not as convenient as gas for long long road trip but it's not super crazy.