Eternals (November 5, 2021)

**Zealot** · 2021-11-04 17:14

Heading in at 7 boys, wish me luck.

**Cail** · 2021-11-04 18:59

Was supposed to go at 845 but I'm fucking beat after working 12 hours and I'm back at 7a for 12 more. Gonna go this weekend or Monday

**Odesseiron** · 2021-11-04 20:19

I....don't understand all the flak this movie is getting. I really enjoyed it. It was not sloppy, it had some really good cinematography ever character felt like their own, as in a small dysfunctional but loving family. And it did some great world-building for future Marvel movies. Post credit scene is gonna get people tiiiiiiiight.

How this is only just above Thor Dark World is perplexing. I would take this movie over several entries in the MCU.

**Vagrant** · 2021-11-04 20:49

Haven't not seen it yet I'm wondering how much of the negative reviews so far has been based on people having no clue who the hell any of the characters are more than anything else. Even a large portion of the comic book fan base would be challenged to name three of the characters in the movie. At least when it came to Guardians those characters had a pretty good following over the years in the comics.

**Odesseiron** · 2021-11-04 21:18

Originally Posted by Vagrant

Haven't not seen it yet I'm wondering how much of the negative reviews so far has been based on people having no clue who the hell any of the characters are more than anything else. Even a large portion of the comic book fan base would be challenged to name three of the characters in the movie. At least when it came to Guardians those characters had a pretty good following over the years in the comics.

I am a Marvel fan and read a variety of the comics growing up through the 80's and 90's. Aside from a couple of the more "popular" Celestials, I knew NONE of these characters, aside from Dane Whitman, which was only due to stumbling upon the character a few years ago. That didn't take away from my enjoyment of the film at all. I could see why this would be a valid train of thought to the average Marvel moviegoing fan.

**Weltall** · 2021-11-04 21:28

I liked this. First 30 minutes felt like too many scenes were cut or poorly edited together, but the rest was pretty damn good.

**Zealot** · 2021-11-04 22:01

Okay, plenty of thoughts. Gonna put in a spoiler without actually spoiling anything.

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So as I had thought, the cinematography in the film is wonderful. Like award-winning stuff in terms of conveying both scale of the world we're in, power of the characters involved, and the time periods we criss-cross throughout the film. The acting is also excellent. For a 9-member cast they all communicated real emotional stakes and conflict. The interesting thing for me was that the film was so long but it didn't feel like anything needed to be cut. They really packed in a huge story and it took every second to get across. No wasted motions in the film.

Overall this was not as good as I had hoped it would be but far, far better than I had feared. A solid B+ film. Absolutely almost a completely different flavor than any other Marvel movie, but that honestly fits with the whole spirit of the Eternals. They've never really felt like a genuine part of the Marvel Universe, standing rather somewhat above or adjacent to it. I am one of the 5 people on Earth who've actually read Eternals comics (the other 4 being Jack Kirby and members of his immediate family) so I had a deeper investment than most - I can understand a lot of the changes in origin that were made and appreciate the attempt to stick to the source material as much as they did.

Just as background, the actual history of the Eternals is that millions of years ago, one that was sick threw up into Earth's primordial ooze, and from that vomit life on Earth began. That's the reason why Earth is such a source of super powers and otherworldy happenings, it's literally stewed in the internal juices of an almighty cosmic being. A few million years after that event, some Celestials returned and decided to screw around with the genetics of some of the life which had emerged, abducting some proto-humans and hyper-evolving some into Eternals (who were then locked in place in terms of development - eternally) and others into Deviants (who never stopped changing and evolving). Then they decided they didn't like the Deviants and set the Eternals about killing them. Given that background it's fair to see why they chose to go with a different origin (and throw in a little bit of Earth X).

This doesn't have many ties to the rest of the MCU except for references to Thanos and a pretty big hint that Shang-Chi is connected to them. That said, stick around for the mid-and-end credits scenes for what are certainly ties to the greater universe.

Overall I was not blown away, but this is certainly better than many other MCU films, and might even be unfair to rate against them because it's SO different.

Also I saw it in IMAX, and it is a very big movie.

**Milkster** · 2021-11-04 22:47

Originally Posted by Odesseiron

I....don't understand all the flak this movie is getting. I really enjoyed it. It was not sloppy, it had some really good cinematography ever character felt like their own, as in a small dysfunctional but loving family. And it did some great world-building for future Marvel movies. Post credit scene is gonna get people tiiiiiiiight.

How this is only just above Thor Dark World is perplexing. I would take this movie over several entries in the MCU.

Comic book nerds hate diversity.

**Vaspinne** · 2021-11-04 23:02

Eh I enjoyed it. Definitely far from the best Marvel movie but pretty solid

**Ker** · 2021-11-04 23:38

Yeah, this movie was disappointing but not worse thing ever. It felt like the second or third movie in a series. A lot of the emotional beats felt unearned because we haven't come to know the characters. The relationships we were shown were nice, though. Angelina Jolie was dope as hell, although grossly misused. I would've loved to get more time with them. In some ways, the Eternals could have been better done with a series focusing on their history first, before we go into this film. I think they needed about 8 hours worth of content to set it up properly and tried to jam that in a 2hour+ flick.

PS The credit scenes was very dope

**Vaspinne** · 2021-11-04 23:44

I can agree that it definitely needed more character build up then what we got to help how invested you get in the characters, especially considering how unknown the Eternals are as far as comic book characters go

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**Zealot** · 2021-11-05 10:02

I've been thinking a lot about how the Celestials were presented here and

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**Azat** · 2021-11-05 11:03

Went and saw it last night and I agree with everyone else, there wasn't any one part I didn't like and it's a solid B+ film.

However, you can feel the pacing pressure at different times because of all these characters, I wouldn't say pacing is bad but you can feel it comes to that edge a couple times. Also Angelina definitely needed some more screen time, I wanted to be more invested in her character.

The last 40 mins were great and you can tell Marvels aiming high for this new phase.

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**Zealot** · 2021-11-05 12:27

Also

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**Uzor** · 2021-11-05 13:59

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**Guitarman** · 2021-11-05 23:32

Ok yeah the critics are on crack. this was a solid B+ movie. I was never not entertained through. Good mix of constant action, interpersonal drama and humor. I left wanting more, and I didn't know anything about the eternals going in. Going to be heresy to say this, but i liked this more than Dune. End credit scenes are wild though.

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**Odesseiron** · 2021-11-06 06:51

Originally Posted by Uzor

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Originally Posted by Guitarman

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**Starby** · 2021-11-06 15:52

I'm surprised everyone liked this so much. Definitely not my kind of movie.

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Still better then Thor dark world

**Vaspinne** · 2021-11-06 16:34

Watch/listen to this (about 1:55 into the clip)

And then listen to this

**Vaspinne** · 2021-11-06 16:35

They are fucking near identical lol

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