FF:BE - A Skinner box with plot

[dasva]

It’s not a robe, so it doesn’t benefit from dark fina’s tmr for example

Yeah but item world made hitting percentage caps pretty easy. Kind of a it depends but potentially BiS for females at least

[Alkar]

Her Endless Drive = Quick Hit Family(Tidus, Camille)

Yeah but Tidus is not on this batch Orlandeau and Greg are and can chain (although Greg's locked behind his LB, hopefully they buff him). Quick Hit is still a niche family as well so I'm assuming most have at least a couple DR units making Oldman a better choice overall.

[Delain]

I will be able to make my Finals and Ramza 7* Friday. All have their TMRs done, but I don't feel I will use them much. Very annoyed at no Tidus as well. I have two of them 7* ready, both with TDH sets. Bastards

I pulled Marie this morning with my ticket. First one of her, so am happy to TMR her.

[Zealot]

Oh I didn't see Gilgamesh in there, I can raise him to 7* right away as well. Most of the other ones I have 1 TMR for but would need to 100% a dupe before I felt ok fusing them.

DKC was also my first 5*, looks like he'll be my first 7* as well. So I get him and Greg from this batch, I'll have to work on everyone else. I haven't enhanced either of their abilities, should I do so before this batch releases?

[dasva]

I think they're gonna make it harder to get these tickets, not sure why but that's the vibe I get from their answer.

Because Gumi

Other note guess I'm glad my missions kept glitching and let me get 2 extra lightnings lol. Yay a good chainer for my Tidus.

[Alkar]

Oh I didn't see Gilgamesh in there, I can raise him to 7* right away as well. Most of the other ones I have 1 TMR for but would need to 100% a dupe before I felt ok fusing them.

DKC was also my first 5*, looks like he'll be my first 7* as well. So I get him and Greg from this batch, I'll have to work on everyone else. I haven't enhanced either of their abilities, should I do so before this batch releases?

I'd wait for the datamine. We don't know what changes they're making to the units and if those abilities are worth upgrading now but I'd still go for the passives because those will help either way.

[Nitsuki]

Dadlandu being my first rainbow, he will be my first 7* as well!!

[Yuri-G]

5* ticket was Light Veritas, I have no strong feelings either way about this

7*s I have in this batch are: Lightning, D Cecil, Gilgamesh. I'll probably skip, but might do Lightning for fun. although as others have said, having to moogle up that TMR to unlock her full potential is just ugh

seriously, I think Lightning's TMR is the best possible example of "well it sounded good on paper." I can imagine intern-kun being like "she already dual wields! it's FOUR ATTACKS! that's insane!" no, intern-kun... just no.

[Nitsuki]

Any info on luneth 7*? My priority atm is orlandu and ramza, but i have 3 luneth, and his stmr is really good, just need 1 more. Lol

[Yuri-G]

I don't know about Luneth but if you just want info, I've been abusing this link like crazy:

https://exviusdb.com/jp/?max_stars=7

if you want detailed analysis, someone else will have to help

[Cyn]

Reagen #3 for me. It's a shame his STMR isn't a little better. You would think that with such low defense the attack boost would be 40+ but whatever. I guess with Raegen and Tidus STMR combined you're only 100% away from High Tide cap, and a lot of units have it in their kits.

[Cream Soda]

Any info on luneth 7*? My priority atm is orlandu and ramza, but i have 3 luneth, and his stmr is really good, just need 1 more. Lol

Luneth becomes a chainer at 7 star. Idk what families he chains with though.

Edit: Or maybe that's the other Dark Knight Luneth character I was hearing about. Just looked up Luneth and yeah I don't see anything that stands out aside from his limit burst, which is pretty nice if you don't have a stronger imperil/defense breaker

[Deathbringer]

Any info on luneth 7*? My priority atm is orlandu and ramza, but i have 3 luneth, and his stmr is really good, just need 1 more. Lol

Long story short: He can chain with another 7* dupe, gets a 3-hit ramp-up move, and his Augmented LB = Water/Fire/Wind/Earth imperil + MP restore.

Gotta give my 1st Rainbow dat 7* promotion

[Robertfb]

My 7* are DKC, Greg, and Olive. Tempted to do Greg since he was my first rainbow, but it'll all come down to how good Olive and GLEX buffs are.

[dasva]

I'll only be able to do Ramza, Orlanduea I haven't leveled and Lightning who I also haven't leveled

[Zealot]

If I understand this TMR thing correctly, if you're going for STMR you can have 1 of the 4 units at 0%, right? You get the moogle container from one unit the first time you fuse, so you can leave one of them at 0 and still get their TM eventually?

[dasva]

Yes. Note containers aren't units so can only be increased via trust moogles

[Alkar]

If I understand this TMR thing correctly, if you're going for STMR you can have 1 of the 4 units at 0%, right? You get the moogle container from one unit the first time you fuse, so you can leave one of them at 0 and still get their TM eventually?

Wait, no. You only get a container if you turn a unit into the material required to awaken your main to 7*. If you fuse for STMR you lose everything like normal fusion. The best approach to get STMRs is to awaken two units to 7* and then fuse one into the other. This way you only need one of them to 100% and keep the containers (it also counts as two awakenings for the future parameter missions).

[Jiyo]

How exactly does STMR progress work? I know the basic "need 4 copies of the 5* unit", but after that, what's the whole ordeal? The last time I saw numbers was when STMRs were first introduced in JP and there being something about "a 7* can only get to 50% STMR rate so you need two". I don't see anyone mentioning saving moogles for STMR, so I think I can safely assume that using moogles isn't a possibility. Do you have to naturally gain STMR rate on 7* units or something?

[Yuri-G]

- cannot gain progress from battles
- there will be moogles, but they don't exist yet even in jp, and normal moogles don't work
- each 5~6* copy of a character fused into the 7* will give it 50% toward stmr
- each 7* copy of a character fused into the 7* will give it 100% toward stmr


^ as alkar said, there are missions in jp for how many 7*s you've made, so the best option is to just make two 7* characters and fuse one into the other


@dasva just keep in mind your characters may stop chaining if the boss dies. so best not to use chains if you can avoid it; I've lost points a few times because 2B chained the boss to death on her first attack and skipped the second entirely