FF:BE - A Skinner box with plot

[Zealot]

Okay so

Level 1 unit to 100, fuse it with a 5* dupe = 1 7*. TMR both of those units first.

Level a second unit to 100, fuse it with another 5* dupe = another 7*, but if you only got 1 of those units to 100% first you'll still be able to get the TMR from the second (fourth) because of the moogle container that will appear? Is that right?

Also then 2nd 7* into the 1st to get STMR.

[Zealot]

My main interest here is making sure I'm right that you can leave one of the 4 units necessary for STMR at 0% and still end up with 4 TMRs in the end.

[dasva]

@dasva just keep in mind your characters may stop chaining if the boss dies. so best not to use chains if you can avoid it; I've lost points a few times because 2B chained the boss to death on her first attack and skipped the second entirely

Git gid son

[dasva]

Okay so

Level 1 unit to 100, fuse it with a 5* dupe = 1 7*. TMR both of those units first.

Level a second unit to 100, fuse it with another 5* dupe = another 7*, but if you only got 1 of those units to 100% first you'll still be able to get the TMR from the second (fourth) because of the moogle container that will appear? Is that right?

Also then 2nd 7* into the 1st to get STMR.

2 main methods of going for STMR.

1. lvl 100 + dupe = 7* + container if the dupe was less than 100%.
7* + dupe2 = 50% to STMR + 50% trust moogle
50% STMR 7* + dupe 3 = STMR no additional trust moogle

2. lvl 100 + dupe = 7* + container if the dupe was less than 100%.
2nd lvl 100 + 2nd dupe = 7* + container if the dupe was less than 100%.
7*+ 7*= STMR + 50% trust moogle

tl;dr method one gives you STMR, 50% trust moogle and up to 1 container,
method 2 gives the same plus up to another container and gives you credit for another 7* awakening (was a mission or trophy reward for UoC tickets I believe) but will not only require you to level another unit to 100 but cost you another 3 million gil

If you have 5 you can also do a hybrid of those 2 to get another 50% moogle.

[Yuri-G]

Git gid son

ok the whole point is that my team is TOO good... just sayin'


2B laughs at mecha boss


edit: eyyyyyyyy finally. those damned HP pots take forever to max out

Spoiler: show

[Jiyo]

So if we want to save as many TMRs as possible, would you only want to get 100% TMR on whatever you bring up to 6* as a part of the process?

[Alkar]

ok the whole point is that my team is TOO good... just sayin'


2B laughs at mecha boss


edit: eyyyyyyyy finally. those damned HP pots take forever to max out

Spoiler: show

That's one sexy Beatrix!

[dasva]

ok the whole point is that my team is TOO good... just sayin'


2B laughs at mecha boss

Clearly not laughing hard enough if she isn't doing 4mil with a single hit unchained!!

[Yuri-G]

That's one sexy Beatrix!

thank you thank you. her enhancements can't come soon enough (and 7*)

Clearly not laughing hard enough if she isn't doing 4mil with a single hit unchained!!

Speed with Ace imperil + Delita break + Soleil buff is right around that number. due to variance sometimes she leaves him with like 5% HP.


she's at 300% ATK with Excal and Aigaion fist, too. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM MEEEEEEEEEEE

[Cyn]

thank you thank you. her enhancements can't come soon enough (and 7*)



Speed with Ace imperil + Delita break + Soleil buff is right around that number. due to variance sometimes she leaves him with like 5% HP.


she's at 300% ATK with Excal and Aigaion fist, too. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM MEEEEEEEEEEE

Olive. Olive hits for 5mil+ with just a couple killer materia and a 50% break.

[Robertfb]

Okay so

Level 1 unit to 100, fuse it with a 5* dupe = 1 7*. TMR both of those units first.

Level a second unit to 100, fuse it with another 5* dupe = another 7*, but if you only got 1 of those units to 100% first you'll still be able to get the TMR from the second (fourth) because of the moogle container that will appear? Is that right?

Also then 2nd 7* into the 1st to get STMR.

Don't fuse units together to unlock 7*, you'll just end up with +5% to that units TMR and lose your 5*. To unlock 7*, the game gives you the option to convert your extra 5* into a 7* awakening mat, then you awaken your unit to 7* like usual. The unit you convert into the mat also gives you a TMR moogle container so you won't lose TMR progress.

For STMR, you directly fuse dupe units into your 7* unit (for love of God, don't fuse to 5*/6*). 1x 5*/6* dupe = 50% STMR; 1x 7* dupe = 100% STMR.

Awakening to 7* requires 3 mil Gil each and roughly 9 maxed leveled King Metal cactuars to max lvl. Also equipping that units TMR gives them bonuses (I.e. Sparky gives Olive increased LB DMG).

[Jiyo]

Kinda off topic of STMRs, but how is everyone feeling with their unit pool atm? Happy? Disappointed? Etc..

I'm actually at the point where I feel I can tackle most (if not all) current/future content with the roster I have atm. I just need a dupe A.Rain and T.Terra to be "done" for what I want in teams. Now I'm eager to just pull on units for nostalgia reasons, which is really exciting for me lol. Shantotto II, Tifa, Jecht, Auron and a Randi re-run are the units I'm looking forward to now.

[Yuri-G]

Olive. Olive hits for 5mil+ with just a couple killer materia and a 50% break.

oh, I've noticed.

[Malithar]

So if we want to save as many TMRs as possible, would you only want to get 100% TMR on whatever you bring up to 6* as a part of the process?

Not 100% sure I get the question, but I think you're asking if you want to save TMR moogles. If you're fusing dupes into a 7* for STMR, you'll want to have those dupes TMR'd up or you'll lose the ability to get those TMRs. When you convert a dupe into the awakening material, you'll get a container with it's TMR and progress, and you can always unlock the 7*'s TMR later down the road if you want.

[Coren]

Service announcement:

Most 7* get mediocre buffs at 115 and slightly-less-mediocre buffs at 120, plus the respective stat increases from levels.
It takes 10 maxed kingtuars to get to 120.
Or you can get 6 units to level 110 for the same amount of XP (or use 12 moogles and get them each to ~112). So it may be worth getting a few units to 7* as the buffs are pretty significant along with new skills, versus a single maxed unit.

For me personally, I'm probably going to max Olive on day one, and then get a few other 7* ready to go (TGCid, Luneth, maybe DFina and Marie) but leave them around 110 and wait on the next batch.

[IceSylph]

My current 7* for batch 1 are just DKC and Marie, so probably going to skip out on both. Don't think they're exactly that hot, and I've never used DKC regardless. Hope Raegan comes sooner than later, as he's my only 7* ready chainer, besides Knight Delita.

[Byrthnoth]

I will probably unlock Wilhelm but where the shit is Frye?

[Alkar]

I will probably unlock Wilhelm but where the shit is Frye?

It seems like they're going with release order (seasonal units excluded for now) so she should be in batch 2 if they keep this setup.

[Coren]

Most useful unit BY FAR in this first batch is Wilhelm.

I have 11 of the 12 7* ready, and 6 of them STMR ready. I'm missing Wilhelm dupe.

How far along release schedule was Basch? I hope he's not in 2 or 5 months.

[Zealot]

Shoot, I have 2 Wilhelms but only 1 shield. To the TM mobile!

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