FF:BE - A Skinner box with plot

[Alkar]

I awakened all 6 of the units I had in this batch, I'm gonna have to due to parameter missions anyway. Ramza is now sitting at 110 with dual breaks, working on Oldman and Lightning.

[Zealot]

Alright so I'm looking at this, and unless you fuse two 7*s together to get the STMR and one isn't TMRd, you won't actually miss the chance to get any TMs?

Example:

I have 4 Wilhelms. 1 has 100% TMR, so I fuse him with Wilhelm2 and get 1 Moogle Container and 1 7* Wilhelm.
I now take Wilhelm3 and Wilhelm4. Both have 0% TMR. When I convert Wilhelm4 into a crystal, I get a second Moogle Container, and Wilhelm3 now becomes another 7* unit with TM value at 0, but able to increase.
So unless I fuse the first 7* Wilhelm into the second, I am still able to get 3 more Shields of the Empire, yes? TMR the second 7* Wilhelm and fill out the 2 Moogle Containers I received from conversion.

[dasva]

Went to cash in raid points for F&V for Olive and Seed for Wilhelm and saw that raid multi summon got bumped to 10k. That's a plus.

it's been 10k for most the recent ones just the last one I think wasn't

[Cyn]

With 4 units with 0 TMRs done it is still possible to get a 7* unit, STMR and 3 TMRs. If you fuse 2 7* units first, yes, the only TMR you lose out on is the TMR of the second base unit. End result is 1 7* unit and 2 empty containers.

(It's what I did with my Wilhelm, I have 7* 100% 100% unit and 2 empty containers.)

[Alkar]

This one was 5k before maintenance so they've fixed it. Btw Olive owners... you can actually dodge the recoil damage with mirage or stuff like Rico's jumpsuit OR use one of those new barrier skills (Ramza/Marie CDs) to survive with 2k HP.

[dasva]

Alright so I'm looking at this, and unless you fuse two 7*s together to get the STMR and one isn't TMRd, you won't actually miss the chance to get any TMs?

Example:

I have 4 Wilhelms. 1 has 100% TMR, so I fuse him with Wilhelm2 and get 1 Moogle Container and 1 7* Wilhelm.
I now take Wilhelm3 and Wilhelm4. Both have 0% TMR. When I convert Wilhelm4 into a crystal, I get a second Moogle Container, and Wilhelm3 now becomes another 7* unit with TM value at 0, but able to increase.
So unless I fuse the first 7* Wilhelm into the second, I am still able to get 3 more Shields of the Empire, yes? TMR the second 7* Wilhelm and fill out the 2 Moogle Containers I received from conversion.

You're having a really hard time with this lol.

Let's cut all that out and make it simple. You only get a container when converting a 5* base into a crystal which is used to awaken to 7*. So basically yes

[Cyn]

it's been 10k for most the recent ones just the last one I think wasn't

Either someone has been sneaking drugs into my food or this one started at 5k and got moved to 10k in the patch.

[Zealot]

Well no one had a straight answer for me!

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[Zealot]

Either someone has been sneaking drugs into my food or this one started at 5k and got moved to 10k in the patch.

Yeah, this was 5k per pull before today.

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[Cyn]

It still doesn't explain why you crazy macro farmers wanted 4 Wilhelm shields to start with.

[Delain]

It still doesn't explain why you crazy macro farmers wanted 4 Wilhelm shields to start with.

I argued with myself for a couple days about whether I would need more than one of his shield. I won the argument, and am annoyed that I have a moogle container I will likely never fill after upgrading him today. I have all three TMR tank shields. There is no real situation I can think of where I would need any more.

[Coren]

Olive sitting at 2211atk using her own STMR. Olive ate all the ATK pots so tgcid is only at 1470atk.

[Zealot]

Letting 5* TMRs go to waste is against my ninja way.

[Zealot]

But with this system I know I only need to get 2 instead of all 4 and I can still have 2 Moogle Containers, that satisfies my compulsion.

[Yuri-G]

you know, I just want to say that bringing myself to moogle up Aurora Scarf is one of the hardest thing I've ever had to do in this game


"it'll be worth it," I tell myself. "it's not about the accessory, it's about the stat boosts," I tell myself. "king can wear it in the arena," I tell myself. but man, it's hard to justify.


to other people who are making 7* Lightning: I can't be the only one who feels this way?

[dasva]

Either someone has been sneaking drugs into my food or this one started at 5k and got moved to 10k in the patch.

Yeah I guess it did. Idk I guess I'm more shocked anyone even checked before 7* hit lol

[dasva]

you know, I just want to say that bringing myself to moogle up Aurora Scarf is one of the hardest thing I've ever had to do in this game


"it'll be worth it," I tell myself. "it's not about the accessory, it's about the stat boosts," I tell myself. "king can wear it in the arena," I tell myself. but man, it's hard to justify.


to other people who are making 7* Lightning: I can't be the only one who feels this way?

Moogle? Psh I'm gunna put her in my TMR, raid, non bonus unit event farming team and probably DD team. While also slowly levling her up. On upside I wasn't sure didn't expect though I got 5% to TMR with the 50% STMR when fusing the 3rd in. And the 50% moogle went to my Wadow

[Yuri-G]

I don't macro or tmr farm :/


maybe I should... but then she's still taking a slot that a character with a better TMR would get. IT'S HOPELESS

[Alkar]

you know, I just want to say that bringing myself to moogle up Aurora Scarf is one of the hardest thing I've ever had to do in this game


"it'll be worth it," I tell myself. "it's not about the accessory, it's about the stat boosts," I tell myself. "king can wear it in the arena," I tell myself. but man, it's hard to justify.


to other people who are making 7* Lightning: I can't be the only one who feels this way?

My waifu is sitting at 99.5% lol, no moogles wasted. She was my first rainbow ever so I didn't need to use moogles at all. Yeah Aurora Scarf is shit on anyone but her however it also means that you're free to dump any containers with it because they won't see any use! I did dump some moogles on Orlandeau's though, that sucked.

[Yuri-G]

that's true, I should and will dump her container right away haha.


yeah I guess I'll moogle her. I'm sitting at 375% right now, and Lightning is at 15%. so with the 10% moogle from the FFVIII event I could finish her off and still have 300% remaining.


ugh it just feels like such a waste though. and this is going to happen all over again with Trance Terra haha. at least that has some use, even if it's only for the stats.