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  1. #1561
    D. Ring
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    Diabolos

    I'm gonna do daily since I still need TDH gear. Also, finally caught up with the story just in time for the upcoming 50% moogle!

  2. #1562
    Chram
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    Game is broke atm. Got my 2 crappy daily blues and got booted out. Reddit blowing up as well.

  3. #1563
    Sea Torques
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    Oravis Altago
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    Exodus
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    Cerberus

    My cousin wanted to thank all the guys that added him recently! It helped him a lot to get started and get some of the KM items he needed as well as grinding out the star ocean raid while he could.

  4. #1564
    Duplicitous Jew with Political Aspirations
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    Got Nalu from a ticket - hadn't planned on spending any but I want moogles.

    Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

  5. #1565
    Queen of the Pity Party
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    did a 10+1 on the 5% banner since I'm completely lacking TDH gear; got a Nalu and 7* Basch. results check out haha

  6. #1566
    Chram
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    Noooooo can't use game tuner anymore. Its forcing me to the app update page and I dont wanna. Seeing as it removes the only reason I downloaded the damn thing in the first place.

    Was hoping not to have to go back to nox to macro but looks like I'm sol.

  7. #1567
    D. Ring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    did a 10+1 on the 5% banner since I'm completely lacking TDH gear; got a Nalu and 7* Basch. results check out haha
    I did 2 and only got off banner Ramza

    At least once I enhance him, he'll be a better buffer then Rena and Lunera.

    Edit: Thought he was 120% buff when enhanced, but he is 100%, fuck, that makes him worse then Rena.

  8. #1568
    Nidhogg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertfb View Post
    I did 2 and only got off banner Ramza
    I did the full 25k worth of 5% pulls for my Ramza, and only got him.

  9. #1569
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    I did the full 25k worth of 5% pulls for my Ramza, and only got him.
    OMG ><, sorry to hear that.

  10. #1570
    Duplicitous Jew with Political Aspirations
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    Do you get moogles for anything other than single pulls on the Nalu banner right now?

  11. #1571
    Ridill
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    Old now but I still can't get over how the 10+1 got so many damn votes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Do you get moogles for anything other than single pulls on the Nalu banner right now?
    Should work with the 10+1 pull... but then you wont get the enhanced rainbow rate the other Nalu banner has

  12. #1572
    Bagel
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    Lakshmi

    Looking at the 25$ lapis bundle with the extra garbage in it, it does seem like an overall better deal than straight up buying lapis. However i cannot fathom in the slightest how they can excuse charging 2x more for 6k lapis.

  13. #1573
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Old now but I still can't get over how the 10+1 got so many damn votes.
    It's something I bitched about back when, but the actual value in step-up banners is lacking. If they weren't shit, then the free lapis choice probably would've been more popular. So, spend 20k lapis in 4x 10 pulls for the high chance of shit, or spend none with the same chance for shit? Even trying to justify on-banner rainbows can be a crapshoot since I see plenty of people who seem to get spooked by unwanted rainbows.

  14. #1574
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    It's something I bitched about back when, but the actual value in step-up banners is lacking. If they weren't shit, then the free lapis choice probably would've been more popular. So, spend 20k lapis in 4x 10 pulls for the high chance of shit, or spend none with the same chance for shit? Even trying to justify on-banner rainbows can be a crapshoot since I see plenty of people who seem to get spooked by unwanted rainbows.
    I mean compared to what though? Step ups are basically the best rainbow/lapis value if you do the full lap more so if you want the banner. Regular 10+1s are completely outdated terrible value these days. The 4x 10+1 value is really probably closer to 12-15k lapis when you compare what you get to what you'd spend on step ups or daily 1/2

    But that aside how does 4x10 pulls beat 30 dailies + 30 of some combination of tickets and trusts? You basically gotta assume that you are going to get less than half of them being tickets for it not to be strictly worse. And then that most of the trusts are 1%s lol

  15. #1575
    Ridill
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    Well, let's not forget they didn't exactly explain these banners well upon launch.

    I still stand behind the belief that step-ups should be better, though. Cutting the 25k version down to 15k (3k/pull) would be a good start. The 3-step variants can be better valuated, too.

  16. #1576
    D. Ring
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    Decided to try Siren to dip my toe into 3* espers and ended up OTKOing her with 150% ATK buffed 7* 1928 ATK Olive True Shot +1 at end of Raegen chain.

    Used the 4* ticket on Nali's banner and got a rainbow!.......which became Lightning #2! NOOOOOOO My Poor trust moogles!!!

    J/K, happy as shit I got her since waifu and her 7* gives my future 7* Tidus a chaining partner!

  17. #1577
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I mean compared to what though? Step ups are basically the best rainbow/lapis value if you do the full lap more so if you want the banner. Regular 10+1s are completely outdated terrible value these days. The 4x 10+1 value is really probably closer to 12-15k lapis when you compare what you get to what you'd spend on step ups or daily 1/2

    But that aside how does 4x10 pulls beat 30 dailies + 30 of some combination of tickets and trusts? You basically gotta assume that you are going to get less than half of them being tickets for it not to be strictly worse. And then that most of the trusts are 1%s lol
    The majority of the playerbase is f2p meaning they can't afford full steps to get guaranteed banner rainbows, that alone reduces the interest in any pure lapis option because the other steps don't offer much value at all. Also the total lack of information+ the confirmation of 1% moogles simply reduced interest in the free dailies as well. I've seen many assume that it would result in more pulls than the 10+1 on average but that's assuming tickets would have the same rates as 1% moogles and I'm 100% sure they wouldn't have lol.

  18. #1578
    XI was, and will always be, better.
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    Haven't seen a rainbow in about a month, and to add to the awesome I've pulled nothing but 4 star max units for the last 3 days lol

  19. #1579
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriarch View Post
    Haven't seen a rainbow in about a month, and to add to the awesome I've pulled nothing but 4 star max units for the last 3 days lol
    It's been said a million times, and should be repeated: common pool 3* should be in FP as of like a year ago. Greedy fucks.

  20. #1580
    Duplicitous Jew with Political Aspirations
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    I'm fine with the worthless TMs in the pool so long as we're eventually getting the system that lets you trade them in for container moogles and UoC tickets.

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