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  1. #1761
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    Thanks to Nichol, ended up retrying and winning Shiva 3* fight. Went in with:
    110 Lightning with Rain's fire GS
    Tidus with +2 QH equipping Flaming blade Agni and Rikki's Pouch (for T1 ATK break)
    MS Nichol with buffs
    LM Fina with heals/reraise
    Mystea with innate 200% ice resistance and Pod 153 (to use P:Shield every other turn)
    Friend: 7* Wilhelm for PHY cover

    Wilhelm died T1, but Fina RR saved him, also almost wiped cause I was stupid and let Mystea's magic wall fall off, thankfully LM Fina raised all DD and Wilhelm's LB helped them survive.

    Gonna try Ramuh and maybe Diabolos tomorrow.

  2. #1762
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    JP got a weapon rebalance today. Basically, any new monster added from and including today's new JP raid event on will have a new defense parameter that effectively checks your weapon's attack stat and reduces damage dealt based on how low it is.

    This makes Fixed Dice completely useless and STMR weapons the undisputed strongest weapons regardless of element. Kind of a hamfisted solution to FD considering it is also a nerf to all TMR and lower weapons other than FD.
    I feel like this should just be scaring people off when paired with them deciding to release 3*s as 5*s instead of fixing the 3*s and the 7* system.

    Nonetheless, I still recall some wonky damage mitigation that was going on around the time of Dark Fina's memories in the story mode. Wondering if that was taken/adapted into what the JPs are seeing now. Either way, fuck forced power creep.

  3. #1763
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Is there some exact formula yet? The initial testing I was seeing made it seem like there was a threshold or something
    Right now it looks like any weapon at or below 125ATK gets its damage reduced by up to 40% depending on how low its ATK is.

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    Below 125? Thats soo many weapons including multiple multiple TMR. Fuck they're trying so hard to flush this game.

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    Well Yuffie is obliterating recently released trials in JP with Fixed Dice so they kinda had to nerf it at some point... nerfing everything else with it is a shitty way of doing it though.

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    These Deus EX units doe......

    Free 5% finally put out!!.....Lightning #4.....does this mean I gotta care about her outside of her STMR? :/

  7. #1767
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    daily blues checking in

    gonna go all month with 5% rainbow being 100% blue

  8. #1768
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    You can tell that Hyoh is coming soon because there is a must have TMR on a raid event with a step up banner. There will probably be lucrative banners for 3k lapis soon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyn View Post
    You can tell that Hyoh is coming soon because there is a must have TMR on a raid event with a step up banner. There will probably be lucrative banners for 3k lapis soon too.
    Which TMR?

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    Was wondering the same thing. At first glance the only one I can see that would be ok would be the tank guys tmr for Wilhelm. Rest seem meh, to me. Glad it's a raid so I can restock my king cactaurs for later 7*. Never played the game so I dont really feel the need to pull on this banner at all. Plus after my rage pull the other day I have less than 10k lapis. And the trend of shitty bundles doesn't seem like it's going to change.

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    Before Hyoh, we also still gotta get through DQ round 2, and ffxi round 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Right now it looks like any weapon at or below 125ATK gets its damage reduced by up to 40% depending on how low its ATK is.
    So basically most weapons you'd equip for reasons other than pure atk stat weather it be elements or special stats or killers. That's a good way to destroy diverse builds lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitsuki View Post
    Which TMR?
    gunna assume it's the tdw one given how hard dwers running into caps now. Though tank one is pretty dece

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Depends. Do you have DC quakers and reasonable mag sets? If so you can ignore basically everything AoE wind, mp drain snort and then some small dmg hits on the turn it snorts. If not it gets a little more complicated
    I have Dark Fina at 7* and Pure Summoner Rydia, I'm fairly certain I could gear both of them pretty well.

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    I did it yesterday with my Dark Fina, Basche (150% wind resist), Wilhelm, quake buddy, CG Nichol, and Ayaka. Quake buddy on first round for me was William, but mistakes on my end made me have to rely on friend list units to fill in spots as I repeated the fight. I messed up several times due to not paying attention to the dispel (Ayaka's only real job besides an occasional curaja). Also forgot to summon Golem, so had to go in again. Failed to complete again because I summoned Titan instead. I can and will put up my Dark Fina (only 115 but sitting at 1400ish mag with Malboro whip). Alternating Tornados and Diastrophism was entertaining, but make sure when you are at/below 40%, just do Tornados. Because, yes, I also failed once by killing with that instead of Tornado for the achievement. I spent way too much energy on that esper. Only hard part about the fight for me in the end was my inability to pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    I have Dark Fina at 7* and Pure Summoner Rydia, I'm fairly certain I could gear both of them pretty well.
    Lets see when I did it I had 1200 kydia, 1400 dark fina and 850 William. Having 3 was nice since even if William was under geared just to push a little farther or sometimes let kydia fill gauge. Used chow with 150% wind resist (100% probably good enough) and dispel. Provoke tank that doesn't take any dmg just there to soak up the mp drain and snort and MS Nichol doing his thing. Can refine your dmg output with dispel/number of nukers so you do 1 and only 1 threshold each turn (unless your evoke gauge is already full then go for it I guess) first 2 thresholds all it did was the AoE wind and ST mp drain and self buffs.

    3rd it did snort and then did some melee attacks (might be because iI didn't push to the 30% and so it just filled the rest with it's normal moves idk. Was the only dmg I took and even though I didn't really gear my Nichol and everyone else was geared for dmg/resist they only took maybe 1-2k dmg total) and you should just kill from there. Was able to fill evoke gauge by t3 so my slimy boi could use golem before getting snorted thanks to long quake chains and kydia doing summoner thing so 4 turn all missions.

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    Alright so I'm seeing basically the set up is:

    100-150% Wind resist MAG tank
    Provoke tank
    Dispeller
    Buffer
    Quake Chainers?

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    Basically. Beware that your magic tank will take some damage occasionally even with wind resist. Nothing that can’t be easily managed but you aren’t crazy if you see it. It hurts if you forget to dispel though. I think I read somewhere that it was a dark based move or something.

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    As long as you pushing thresholds yep. If you aren't your magic tank will need fire resist and you will need some stat protection and under 50% it throws in some non elemental magic attacks too. Could probably get away without a buffer but easier to bring a buffer instead of gearing up yet another quaker. Magic tank isn't really doing anything after putting up cover so it's kind of the perfect slot for dispel

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    Done, used Chow with 110% fire and 150% wind, 100% Evade Merc Ramza, Ayaka, Rydia, Dark Fina, and a friend's MS Nichol. Ramza got snorted but it actually ended up not making much of a difference with the amount of resistance and reraise I had at my disposal.

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    Welp, daily rainbow again (stop using up my Hyoh luck game!) And got my first Eiko.

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