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  1. #1941
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Kiiiinda, this only harshly impacts Fixed Dice. Weapons even as low as say 70 attack only receive a very small impact to damage, sub 20%. So if they have a killer effect they'll still win, especially if you're dual wielding a high damage weapon.

    Its RIP Fixed Dice entirely though lol.
    Any loss is a loss though (higher it's actually a small bonus). I mean if this was a solution towards a skewed meta it's just going to skew to high dmg weapons now lol. Killers I wouldn't be so certain about though. What that post and graph forgets is that is only the change from old formulas not the total loss of using a lower ATK weapon.

    Can't really do full math or look into what higher dmg weapons we will be getting right now but it's something to keep in mind especially since you are also sometimes dropping other bonuses to put on the killer effect one as well or might already have a bit of killer effects. Or those weird builds where TDH is normally decently better but a killer weapon could've made dw slight better... speaking of which wonder if they are going redo a bunch of the damage calcs for TDH without FD. Wonder how close DH brotherhood Tidus is to a dw version

  2. #1942
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    we all know this is because they want us to use more STMRs, right?

  3. #1943
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    Think they just wanted to kill Fixed Dice from being the literal best weapon for any unit who can use a throwing weapon. The focus on making STMR good was a happy coincidence though I'm sure they knew what they were doing... But yah, it seems kinda shitty, thankfully the nerf to weapons above 100 damage is so low you'll likely never notice unless you pull out the calculators.

    I mean, Fixed Dice was so bad that Jecht can't even equip throwing weapons. Mr Blitzball himself can't equip Blitzballs.

  4. #1944
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veikuri View Post
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    Make sure you have BG in your message.

  5. #1945
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    Buster style get. Huzzah. Only 1 more TDH tmr left to farm. It's kind of funny I've gotten exactly the amount that a single unit can use of each one and no more.

    Also going back to the other thing it should be noted that this nerf does effect moves with def scaling. So for those of you who were excited about getting winged saint for new dude or disappointed that you couldn't.... well he'll probably already be outdated by then but still sad. Also makes the new raid gun seem even sillier in retrospect.

  6. #1946
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    Greg#2 from 10+1.

  7. #1947
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    blues from both dailies to boot

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  8. #1948
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    Blue from daily, Blue from free daily, one yellow and 10 blue from the ten plus ticket. I got them blues.

  9. #1949
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    If I see another William from a damn gold.....

    XI's MK event is next- whos going to fall for dat nostalgia?!?

  10. #1950
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    Soon as I saw the news page I automatically thought of sky weapon xp sessions. Had some good memories from 11. Beating cop, pre nerf and getting to Sea for the first time with that awesome music track. Now will I go ham on pulling for these units, no. Few more bonus then gtfo. That shadowlord Sprite does look cool though.

  11. #1951
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Any loss is a loss though
    While I agree the damage formula changes are pretty silly, it's important to not look at it as a loss. Existing trials and content doesn't gain these changes, only new content moving forward. I'm looking at it more as new content will have a -DT effect that may or may not make some weapon choices a non-option.

  12. #1952
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    10+1 was nothing, though I did finish Sara's Robe. so that's nice.

    daily free was Kydia tho, which is neat. she's not "good" necessarily but I've always wanted one. already replaced SBDF on my raid team (just for fun obvs)
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathbringer View Post
    If I see another William from a damn gold.....

    XI's MK event is next- whos going to fall for dat nostalgia?!?
    ugh. I wanted to pull for Shantotto II but it's a double rainbow banner... nah. I'll just spend some tickets, see what comes up

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    All these years later we're heading back to farm sea once again. Looking forward to the nostalgia.

  14. #1954
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    While I agree the damage formula changes are pretty silly, it's important to not look at it as a loss. Existing trials and content doesn't gain these changes, only new content moving forward. I'm looking at it more as new content will have a -DT effect that may or may not make some weapon choices a non-option.
    That's some word gymnastics there lol.

    Other news daily blue was blue but got an awakened rain from 10+1 so yay.

    ffxi MK event and no including prishe or werei or old shantotto for shame!

  15. #1955
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    Bit surprised at all this news today. New MK event, ability awakenings, Alexander, story continuing already, plus the new 10-man trial. It's a loaded week.

  16. #1956
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    All blue including 10+1, not even good blues, FP unit tier useless blues, time for my rainbow luck to get balanced.

  17. #1957
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    I think i'm gonna save my 10+1 until the ffxi event is out. No point in letting those blues and golds be worthless if i can get something worthless but also give more farming bonus.

  18. #1958
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    Saving 10+1 for friday 'just in case' lol. Continuing my streak of blues from daily 5% banner. Going to throw some tickets on the FFXI banner to get a few bonus units... I do kinda want Shantotto II, but not enough to actually try pulling for her. If they had like Tenzen or something... I would have put in some work on the banner lol.

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    As a day 1 windy BLM, totto may be one of my top 3 FF characters ever, and she's not even playable! I'll be pulling a bit on this banner.

  20. #1960
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryu View Post
    I think i'm gonna save my 10+1 until the ffxi event is out. No point in letting those blues and golds be worthless if i can get something worthless but also give more farming bonus.
    You can already pull Kupipi from it and your chances of pulling a Joachim (let alone the rainbows) from it are abysmally low.

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