Diablo: Immortal (PC/Android/iOS) - June 2, 2022

[Karbuncle]

Ahh.. yeah, hearing about the games itemization and how its always online and you can run into random folks in the field, how you level up slots, how Gems are the only factor in weapons, so forth... I don't think the games going to be bad but I can already see the obvious Pay2Win structures and foundations being laid. Hopefully, they're not awful enough to ruin the experience, we'll see.

[Lucavi]

For those who already play mobile cash-spenders, this'll be a fine game.

For those who don't, this won't be a fine game.

Same as it always is.

[Karbuncle]

Think you'd be surprised how many people who are familiar with Mobile games still hate egregious p2w trash. Its not enough people, mind you, whales are gunna whale... but we exist.

[Lucavi]

Oh I absolutely know that you exist, but there's still a subset like me that refuses to play any of them on principle, fun be damned.

I'm an old curmudgeon! I cannot stop the tide, but I can rock on my chair and spit at the wave as it washes over me.

[Karbuncle]

I think it was FFRK that broke me into the Mobile Market. Then I think FFBE came along, eventually JP Mobius and Grandmaster... English Mobius... Basically Final Fantasy has been stringing me along lol

[6souls]

The Celery of Diablo

[6souls]

https://twitter.com/DiabloImmortal/s...89516822241284

[6souls]

Coming June 2nd - PC Open Beta Announced

[6souls]

https://twitter.com/SkillUpYT/status...sY6DLYLpH6CDAA

[Prothescar]

"guys they didn't want the mobile game what do we do?"

"port it to pc, duh."

"alright, should I get the UI/UX guys on board to-"

"no"

[Shenrien]

Lmao, must have been the core reason why its been delayed so long.

[Lucavi]

You know it was.

Heh.

[Karbuncle]

Well this is rather unfortunate, but also not at all unexpected from modern Blizzard.

[Melena]

Anyone who thought this wasn't going to be pay to win the moment it was announced at Blizzcon was deluding themselves.

[NynJa]

The problem isnt PTW existing, the problem are the people who continue to make PTW content worth making for these companies. If people werent buying it, companies would stop wasting time and resources making it. All business decisions are based on ROI, and clearly the ROI for making these exceeds the cost significantly.

[Lucavi]

You're never going to convince addicts or people who have more than enough cash to blow $100 bucks on instant power and convenience.

Either the laws have to change or it never will, because leaving humans up to controlling their vices has never - in the entire history of this fucking rock we live on - worked.

[Melena]

You're never going to convince addicts or people who have more than enough cash to blow $100 bucks on instant power and convenience.

Either the laws have to change or it never will, because leaving humans up to controlling their vices has never - in the entire history of this fucking rock we live on - worked.

Yup, my late father told me how much he would sometimes throw at clash of clans because he had time + disposable income was scary at times.

[arus2001]

Needed legislation aside, it's not just a matter of (dumb) people throwing money at these games, it's the fact more and more are coming out this way to begin with while the alternatives lessen. Your options effectively become to buy in, suffer as a F2P scrub, or not play at all. The last obviously doesn't cure individual boredom, while the middle can just lead to frustration. Even for the games were people go, "But it's just cosmetics!" are playing into the bullshit.

[Botosi]

Needed legislation aside, it's not just a matter of (dumb) people throwing money at these games, it's the fact more and more are coming out this way to begin with while the alternatives lessen. Your options effectively become to buy in, suffer as a F2P scrub, or not play at all. The last obviously doesn't cure individual boredom, while the middle can just lead to frustration. Even for the games were people go, "But it's just cosmetics!" are playing into the bullshit.

I'm somehow jealous of my friend that has like 30 different Fortnite skins, but lives with his parents. The irony.

[Lucavi]

The money will always go somewhere, yeah, as options lesson, more cash will go into these kinds of systems. Its the same thing, to an extent, with all the subscriptions now. You can have hundreds of dollars a month going into all the netflix/apple/hulu/curosity/ect subs rolling at once. You don't even know where all that cash is going after a point, but it keeps draining away, every month.

People who have enough disposable cash won't care, but for those who aren't in that situation, it can be crippling when they wake up and realize just how much of their income is being bled out in ways that they weren't really aware of.