Dune (October 22, 2021) | Part 2 (March 1, 2024) | Part 3: Messiah

[6souls]

https://twitter.com/BoxOffice/status...882037255?s=20

[Outlaw]

I was going to go see it tonight but I thought I better check to see how many seats had been reserved. To my surprise the couple theaters in my area are almost sold out for the evening screenings. The only spots left are on the side isles right near the walls, which I hate.

It's ok. I have not gotten my booster yet and I would rather not be crammed in with the unvaxxed masses.

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[DFJS]

Huge Dune fan. Had my reservations but Dennis however you spell his last name makes good movies. Thought Hans Zimmer did a great job with the score. Costumes and Cgi were good. Curious to see who might play Feyd.

[Obev]

Denis Villeneuve. Yes he does.

They already have my money. Saw it on Monday at a preview screening. It's gooood. So good I didn't even go "haha, remember that Fatboy Slim song?" when they said "if you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm." Very Villeneuvian. Beautiful shots, awesome scenery, very dreamlike, which really works for this source material. Also, Hans Zimmer "BWOOOOW" noises actually worked for the score, with added bagpipes!

Feyd-Rautha predictions for the sequel:

a) de-aged Sting
b) Timothée Chalamet in a blond wig
c) de-aged Stellan Skarsgård
d) Dave Bautista but skinny

[archibaldcrane]

My deeper Dune thoughts/criticisms:

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Biggest criticism: We see three planets/settings in the movie - Atreides' planet, Arrakis, and wherever the Harkonnens live.

They all look like they were designed by the same set designer. Of course they were, but these are different civilizations from different species - they shouldn't all be cavernous but sparsely appointed rooms with some moderately ornate carvings sometimes but zero "adornments" of any sort. They didn't feel like they were truly lived-in by anyone, and were simply too similar to each other.

I've learned since I watched that the spice is needed to safely travel FTL because the navigators on the spaceships are all spiced up to see the future-ish/plan paths through space safely because of that. Now, I don't need an explainer on that super carefully, but the narration that spice is needed for space travel left me believing that it was a type of spaceship fuel. There's multiple scenes of space travel, just give me a few space pilots or whatever with blue glowing eyes or something.

Paul's mom is simply too young - now because they call her a concubine at one point I have to assume the Atreides clan does some sort of child bride shit, but that's probably not true? I thought the actress did an absolutely phenomenal job, both being maternal but also a fucking witch-freak at the same time, but the actress is only 12 years older than him and looks it.

The movie ends with a whimper. Obviously the book doesn't plan for a mid-point bang, but I've learned that basically there's going to be an intergalactic jihad in Paul's name in the future that he sees in his visions but is unable to stop. If you ask me, if you want to end this movie right, fresh off his first kill, bathed in the spice, give Paul one final dream of the future where the chaos that his hero's journey will lead becomes clearer. It doesn't have to be explicit but give us something to lust for - and something network execs who have yet to greenlight the 2nd film to want to realize.

[6souls]

My deeper Dune thoughts/criticisms:

Spoiler: show

Biggest criticism: We see three planets/settings in the movie - Atreides' planet, Arrakis, and wherever the Harkonnens live.

They all look like they were designed by the same set designer. Of course they were, but these are different civilizations from different species - they shouldn't all be cavernous but sparsely appointed rooms with some moderately ornate carvings sometimes but zero "adornments" of any sort. They didn't feel like they were truly lived-in by anyone, and were simply too similar to each other.

I've learned since I watched that the spice is needed to safely travel FTL because the navigators on the spaceships are all spiced up to see the future-ish/plan paths through space safely because of that. Now, I don't need an explainer on that super carefully, but the narration that spice is needed for space travel left me believing that it was a type of spaceship fuel. There's multiple scenes of space travel, just give me a few space pilots or whatever with blue glowing eyes or something.

Paul's mom is simply too young - now because they call her a concubine at one point I have to assume the Atreides clan does some sort of child bride shit, but that's probably not true? I thought the actress did an absolutely phenomenal job, both being maternal but also a fucking witch-freak at the same time, but the actress is only 12 years older than him and looks it.

The movie ends with a whimper. Obviously the book doesn't plan for a mid-point bang, but I've learned that basically there's going to be an intergalactic jihad in Paul's name in the future that he sees in his visions but is unable to stop. If you ask me, if you want to end this movie right, fresh off his first kill, bathed in the spice, give Paul one final dream of the future where the chaos that his hero's journey will lead becomes clearer. It doesn't have to be explicit but give us something to lust for - and something network execs who have yet to greenlight the 2nd film to want to realize.

It's like you've never watched the David Lynch film.

[Krandor]

What does David Lynch have to do with the new movie

[archibaldcrane]

It's like you've never watched the David Lynch film.

I certainly haven't

[archibaldcrane]

I think the only Lynch content I've ever consumed are Wild at Heart, Lost Highway, and Eraserhead.

[6souls]

What does David Lynch have to do with the new movie

He'd have a a basic understanding as he hasn't read the book.

[archibaldcrane]

I have a hard time believing that the Lynch movie would help with my 1st, 3rd, or 4th comments.

[synistar]

Definitely doesn't understand the Bene Gesserit breeding programs. But I won't be watching it til tomorrow so I lack context to further comment.

[Rhyis.]

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in both other dune movies the navigators are shown for like 30 seconds so it sounds same. what the spice is used for is mostly left to the imagination. you're just supposed to take it on faith that the shit is the bees knees, which is lazy but whatever

also the lady jessica looks like she's about 30 'cause she is. she was 14 or something when she was given as a concubine to the atreides dude and became pregnant soon after... every film they've chosen actors that play paul/jessica that look about 14 years apart 'cause they're supposed to look that way. that's the story. pedophilia ain't no thang in the dune-verse

that's disappointing about the different house palaces not looking vastly different. i thought that was the best part about the mini-series. the harkonnen palace looked like what hell should look like

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[DFJS]

Lynch's version gives the viewer a better understanding of what's going on the universe at the start of the movie. I also don't like that Jessics seemed like a crybaby but in the other movies/books she's a badass from the start not just vs Stilgar.

[Outlaw]

It's at 83% with over 300 critic reviews and 92% audience so far.

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[mallister]

just saw it. was much better than i was afraid it was going to be, but:

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i felt like the narrative style they used when paul was tripping balls through half the movie wasn't really well explained. i knew what was supposed to be going on, but i've read dune about a dozen times. however, my stepson, who has never read the book, felt it was done pretty well and didn't seem to have any issue following what was going on, so ignore me, i'm old and allergic to fun.

[Fhloston]

Went in blind, never seen the old movie or read the book but I thought this was pretty good. Great visuals, music, all the actors were great. Felt like it ended at an appropriate point of the story and I'm looking forward to the next part. You slap Dennis Villeneuve's name on it and I'll watch it.

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[archibaldcrane]

Poking around and saw that there was not only a Dune miniseries on Sci-fi but also a Children of Dune miniseries with James McAvoy and Susan Sarandon?

Who among you have braved this?

[Rhyis.]

the dune miniseries is good.
the children of dune miniseries is not.

susan sarandon's acting was particularly terrible

[Krandor]

I've seen it. The 2 Dune miniseries on Sci-Fi are still their highest rated programs ever I'm pretty sure.

It's okish, I'm pretty sure it won an Emmy for visual effects